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  1. Idolater

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    So "God a father". Instead of God the Father. Sigh. Typical.
  2. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Agreed. No it won't.
  3. Idolater

    The Church in the Book of Revelation

    So Paul doesn't just say, " Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth" but he adds significant detail! " fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry . . . anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of...
  4. Idolater

    Theology Club: Blinding of Israel

    But that's what I was talking about with @Tambora we were mentioning the Bible preachers we've listened to and how they've all done just that, but also we even have here at TOL Bob Enyart (of happy memory) and Saint John W who both did the same thing. When read as a book, for certain people...
  5. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    No it's not. You don't like my characterization of it, but it is not because I misunderstand it. I was a convicted Calvinist for many years; I know Calvinism from the inside. So you have to be of the position that if someone apparently 'loses' their faith then they never really had it to...
  6. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes but the evidence is consistent with that He knew that that was going to happen beforehand, and that therefore there was a different plan afoot from the beginning, in anticipation of His rejection. This evidence is even back in the Old Testament. It seems that the 'Kingdom on earth' plan...
  7. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Well, that's pretty important, but even then the great thing about TOL is that we'll get to that. We'll find you out, if you don't believe. And then we'll talk about that, we'll argue and attempt to persuade you to believe, because of . . . reasons. We all have reasons. To believe. But...
  8. Idolater

    Search the scriptures

    Yes but so far I think the 'headline' of this stash is that what's come from them corroborates manuscripts we've had for centuries, which all on its own is a very positive thing, because it confirms that God has preserved His Scripture for us, even through all these very many years. He's been...
  9. Idolater

    What say you? Is the Bride the same as the body of Christ?

    Right. Do Titus and 1st & 2nd Timothy only apply to those men? Or just to bishops? When we read those letters, are we reading 'somebody else's mail'?
  10. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Then I take that as a yes.
  11. Idolater

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Let me try this. Imagine Alexandra has complete power over the circumstances of Barry. Imagine that Barry is an 'experimental' personality, loves to try new things, an 'early adopter' and adventurous. Now consider that Alexandra provides Barry with the circumstances that make experimenting...
  12. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    But the Lord Jesus is our high priest. That's how 1st Corinthians 15:3 works, " ...Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures...," His death was a sacrificial offering (upon the 'altar' of the cross) to the Father on behalf of His Body, the Church. It was 'priestly' what He did.
  13. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Why does Paul say "One faith" (Eph4:5) if there is more than one faith?
  14. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    OK but even if exclusively true, and that is an open question, that doesn't support you saying "both". So that supports it being Old Covenant (which would support Dispensationalism), but how is it 'also' New Covenant then?
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    Search the scriptures

    It's recorded oral tradition. And whenever we find something outside Scripture that corroborates Scripture, that's something worth looking into! They didn't have to. I mean, chronologically the Talmud wasn't written down until after Paul had died, so Paul knew the actual oral tradition of...
  16. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    So is the Gospel of the Kingdom, Kingdom Gospel, Old Covenant, or New Covenant?
  17. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    So then you agree that once you believe Paul's Gospel you no longer have a choice to not believe it?
  18. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    If "in the beginning of the gospel", the Philippian church was already there, then it must have gotten there somehow.
  19. Idolater

    These are NOT the same gospel

    So the church in the wilderness is what Paul is talking about in Philippians 4:15 when he says that, "no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only"? And actually, even the Philippian church had already existed "in the beginning of the gospel"? Who 'planted'...
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