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These terms tend to echo from Reformed theology and are Calvinism terms (thanks for the information). Hilston likely was influenced by these. Arminians rather, posit Atecedent Will and Consequent Will according to their understanding. As Knight said in the above linked thread, Open Theism...

Comments section is helpful on these. Some of the Riemmanian teachers/professors (Einstein math) do a good job of discussing the tenable and untenable points. MrZelduck had a few good critique points:

I've contacted Dr William Lane Craig. If he responds, I'll convey dialogue. I've talked a number of times with Hilston. He denies being a Calvinist for what it is worth.

I'm going to have to do more reading. From here: This would be a bit closer to what I believe and not unthinkable for an Open Theist. I'm not sure since it isn't Craig's quote but about what he believes.

It is an assertion anyway. The scripture you are asking for is rather not the proper request, from my theological viewpoint. Because time isn't a factor, the past is already as He willed it. Yep, I do! All analogies break down if you want to make absurd of them. You might as well claim...

I've seen the same statement from Calvinists almost verbatim. It seems projecting to me. Actually, for me, huge scripture hurdles that don't allow it. For instance, I yet literally know of even one 'failed' prophecy. I'd have to be aware of at least one to be an Open Theist. Derf...

As I said, I like Calvinists. As far as embracing Calvinism, I might better be called Amyraldian. I'm not really hung up on monikers. I'm wide-read in my theology education. While Westminster 'seems' supralapsarian, the reasoning isn't as inconsistent as many believe (even among...

Will answer this for thread, whether it carries conversation or not: Do a bit of a word study. One day the Earth will be destroyed and someone may argue against scripture when they need not. This is talking about men being able to do anything to interfere with God. Forcing it. Do a word...

It 'looks' like you've checked out on this conversation and are no longer trying to even follow the arguments. To date I've been labelled a lot of these, but not an Open Theist at this venture. Next, I am not emotional on this. You can try to keep going with that tack but I like...

This will be less than half of the previous and I cut it off before half is over. :nono: ONLY double-pred Calvinists believe this. You have to be exact on this else it will quickly become a strawman. This one is a bit harder to explain because it isn't just Double-pred. Rather, the...

Agree with all but 2 points so 1) need to say here I read it exactly as Clete does, not into it as other's have. A cursory reading would have declaring end from the beginning about everything. In context, it is about salvation for Israel, that God declared He would do it and will. If I...

I think he was reading one of your arguments on determinism and assumed it was an Open paradigm. The surreal was that you were making a comment about what you understood EDF to mean. IOW, he should be an Open Theist! 0.o The miracle thread was also surreal. I believe you called it right...

Overtly psychoanalytical (and I don't think the guy is a psychologist at that). It is also a vid I'd have to turn away with minecraft or whatever distracting game he had going on in the foreground. Using the voice-over recognition software was a good choice, probably made what I'd have had...

What is the question/argument again, anybody? Gary, Not seeing the 'why' of this being true. How come? Not sure what the argument is on this one either. JudgeRightly, I get a LOT of accusations of being unable to follow (random) but I suspect it isn't just me O.o! (It is me, I'm just...

I think what he is saying is if 'you' believe determinism means 'no choice' then the Son, known to be slain from creation, would have no choice and therefore: 'murder.' And because Open Theists are the one who 'think this' about determinism' you'd have to believe the rest of us believe the...

What is in keeping with scriptures? You are making an assertion: "If it was known, it is determined!" You haven't shown the smoking gun, just evidence atf. If so, it doesn't matter. Let me entertain your 'no choice' scenario for a moment: Not only did He say 'vanilla' but made me...

It is possible, but I read it as Jesus explaining what all Pharisees and other Jewish teachers should have picked up from Isaiah 53, for instance. That tends to be how I read it because Jesus says: Realize I'm either not Mid Acts, or not versed well enough on the coincidence. For me, if...

Agree, I know of no other either. I think so. Here is a question for MidActs: Was 'born again' future for Nicodemus? From Theology class, the Holy Spirit came 'upon' men and women prior to the Lord Jesus Christ's DBR. If not, then I'd have to agree that 'born again' isn't the same as...

Uhhhggg. What in the world does "Planet Fitness" and 'kids' have in common? :doh: (some of these could obviously go in "Not Mad Enough" also. <Grief>

Hello Tambora! 1Co 2:9 But as it is written, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard," nor has it entered into the heart of man, "the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 1Co 2:10 But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep...