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How times have changed, what destroys your reputation one day makes you a celebrity the next. :cheers: --Dave

Why do you always bite off more than I can chew? I am making the case for the flat stationary earth I am not committing my eternal destiny to it. I'm making this a genuine debate. The only person who cannot truly be deceived is one who knows "both" sides of an argument. I appreciate your...

You "can" see and feel the movement of a river. You "cannot" see or feel the movement of the atmosphere. Does gravity "hold" the atmosphere or does gravity "move" the atmosphere? Does gravity "hold" the clouds, birds, planes, etc. or does gravity "move" everything that is contained in the...

Spatial fabric... ... and pizza dough are not answers to my questions. --Dave

That we live in an invisible atmosphere that moves with the earth at 1000 mph and yet move in that atmosphere as if it were not moving at all is like being in a river that moves at 1000 mph? Was not my analogy. If a plane can move through the atmosphere then it does not move with the...

The arctic ice wall circles the flat earth so that may be one way to interpret that but I could see it as a globe as well by that one verse. All verses as a whole on the subject would be helpful but might also be a subject of it's own. --Dave

I don't want this tread to be a Bible study. Lets just accept that there has always been a view that the Biblical cosmology is a flat earth but there is also a view that the Bible does not say that. --Dave

The dome is over the flat earth. --Dave

If a plane can move through the atmosphere then it does not move with the atmosphere If the speed of the rotating earth is added to the speed of the plane going from LA to NY is the speed of the earth subtracted from the speed of the plane as is goes from NY to LA? Is the earth "inside off"...

I have posted a number of videos that completely contradict what your space photo is showing, both from NASA and private. And you could see that for yourself if you would watch them. But I will certainly post more of them later. I want an answer to my question on motion first. --Dave

So the fish don't know the water is moving??? Have you asked any of them? Your example describes a motionless earth with visible moving water, thank you for your support. --Dave

I was a professional graphic artist at one time, any photo can be altered, fish eye lens not required. --Dave

Round or flat does not change my faith in Christ one bit. The Biblical world view is not effected one way or the other either. This is not about salvation, it's about deception. Satan is a deceiver and the question is has he fooled the world through globalism and we went to the moon? I don't...

But we can see the river moving, we don't see the earth or atmosphere moving is the point. And the river moves over land that is not moving. This is a false analogy, and you will not find an analogy because it's a contradiction to say the earth moves the atmosphere and every thing in it but...

Tell what the atmosphere is made of and how it moves things in it while at the same time things move through it. The atmosphere moves everything with it. Things move through the atmosphere. Then the atmosphere does not move every thing with it. See the problem? --Dave

If the invisible atmosphere is moved with the visible earth but everything visible moves through the invisible atmosphere then we should see the movement of the visible earth even though we cannot see the invisible atmosphere moving with it. How does gravity move the atmosphere? Don't tell...

Go back a few posts and you will see how I have answered that. --Dave

Not really. a flat earth with a circling sun, moon, and stars (which are not millions of miles away) fulfill all the basic requirements. In other words flat earth model and spinning globe model have tha exact same calendar. I will get more into that later but I want to focus on the supposed...

I wish you would watch that video, it's not that long. Just see how convinced and convincing he is. I don't believe him either but for different reasons than you. The next step. If the invisible atmosphere is moved with the visible earth but everything visible moves through the invisible...

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