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Did you look at the videos I just posted with the sun in the clouds? --Dave

Give us that geometry then. We still need observations. The video with the sun in the clouds are pretty clear to me, and many others. --Dave

I don't say, see there, the person who made the video might be saying that or not. You have to watch them to find out. I have a graphic art back ground and produced a number of magazines and designed many book covers. A video can tell you so much about this subject that geometry cannot...

Why should I approximate it? --Dave

I don't create videos for flat earth or NASA. I watch both, and I have watched many, for many hours. I do far more than anyone see's. You may see a video as fraud where someone else may not. NASA, in my opinion, has presented both authentic and fraudulent video, as have flat earth folk. A...

The videos give us a good idea, but the point is the earth is stationary and flat with a close sun and moon circling it or it's not. --Dave

I have presented, and will continue to present, all the evidence for a flat stationary earth. Which you have not answered. I will go into scripture and see all the evidence for the same. Let's see where your faith stands. --Dave

Wow...what a great response! But in a debate we try to make meaningful arguments and counter arguments or present videos that do the same. --Dave

I will reply to your post twice. First, you missed this from one of my previous posts. Your faith in our cosmology forefathers is not exactly Christian. "According to most scholars, Newton was Arian, not holding to Trinitarianism. 'In Newton's eyes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to...

Good, then stay off my thread. I have better things to do than read your dumb comments. This thread has always been about visual/video evidence for a flat earth. --Dave

Yes, there are videos that present both positions. The experiments on table are only to make a point, not to be exact. If you can see an error in an experiment you think you have debunked the point it's making? We have to watch many videos and compare them and eventually one view will prevail...

Check out the videos, enjoy the music too. --Dave

I have never said how far the sun and moon are from the earth. They are very far away as per globe model or they are very close as per flat earth model. The video evidence says very close. --Dave

Sun in the clouds --Dave

THE most undeniable proof of the Flat Earth SUN! --Dave

Flat Earth Clouds Behind My Local Sun --Dave

Sun Sets IN the Clouds --Dave

Sun rise under the clouds --Dave

Look at those clouds behind the sun and moon. Kinda backs up what the rays of the sun tell us. --Dave

Two horizons In this picture you can see there is a reflection of the sun just below it that reveals a horizon line beyond the the first on. This is proof of an extended plane. There are other pictures that I have seen that show this. --Dave