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There a number of factors that cause the sun not to shrink perfectly at the horizon. 1. Horizon atmospheric density 2. Horizon atmospheric refraction and diffraction 3. Horizon magnification or lensing 4. Land mass elevation above horizon line But without doubt video has proven the sun...

Perspective deals with how far we can see into the distance across a plane and it is relevant. Saying it isn't doesn't make it so. Perspective does not just deal with size, it states that things that move beyond the horizon line will disappear from our sight because they merge into the horizon...

I'll take the third option: I just don't think it's absolutely fool proof and not subject to presupposing an aspect of it that would negate it as a one punch, case closed, knock out of flat earth. Perspective and the videos I've shown are valid if you like it or not. You're to late...

Sorry, but these videos are valid evidence. I know they don't work for globe earth which is why everyone ignores them. On one is even in this debate if they don't look at the videos and debunk them if they can. I'm still working on Clete's triangulation argument so it's not that I discount...

I have been back to work lately and not had time to post as much as I would like so I have to focus on one argument, or the line of argument, that focuses on the horizon. --Dave

In review A flat motionless earth with flat straight horizons is seen: 1. From everywhere on earth 2. From all high altitude balloons Flat motionless earth is the cosmology of: 1. All ancient cultures up to the beginning of Greek philosophy 2. The Bible taken literally from beginning to...

Did you view any of the videos? --Dave

Case made for flat earth. --Dave

Same story over and over. From high altitude we see a flat straight horizon, fish eye distortion of a curve is well known. We see an immovable earth with moving small close sun with bright hot spot directly underneath it. But we're all crazy lunatics if we don't we don't accept the opposite...

Large close sun. --Dave

In this video we see the sun come out of the horizon at the 1:42:00 mark of this video. See how tiny that sun is in the distance then compare it to how much larger it is when it's close in the other videos. Here is visual proof that the sun changes size in relation to perspective of a flat...

Here we see see more clearly the flat straight horizon, a small close sun moving over a motionless earth. --Dave

I have said a number of times that the height and size of the sun would comply with perspective. --Dave

Clete's argument is not absolute proof and does not incorporate perspective. --Dave

A perfect example of perspective from weather balloon. A fish eye lens is being used but despite the curvature that is not really there we see how both sun and jet come out of the horizon. The jet rises as it gets closer and moves in a downward direction as it moves away from the...

I never said the earth was 3,000 miles away, and I have not seen that that is the standard for flat earth. Everything we see in the sky above us will move downward to the horizon in perspective, the way we see everything regardless of how high it is. Perspective is based on plane/flat geometry...

How Does The Horizon Work? Did you see my response to the video you suggested I watch? Post #3025 You did not refute that the Ancient world, up until Plato and Aristotle, believed in flat earth and Genesis is consistent with it. That's history and it's not debatable. A flat motionless earth...

The ancient world believed in supernatural beings that interacted with the world, so does Genesis. Genesis 6:1 When men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as...

How Does The Horizon Work? This video was suggested by Clete, and I want to comment on it. At about :40 into the video the person in the video says, "despite the the ocean seeming flat, they actually curve themselves". Then he says something that is entirely false, he moves his arm from...

God did not have to tell us the earth was flat and motionless and sun, moon, and stars move over the earth because that's obvious to all people. That it was God who created everything must be revealed to us by God because we were not there to see it, obviously. We don't need a revelation for...