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No, I made it clear that I reject his presupposition of the existence of God. His claim that the Christian presupposition of the existence of God is not arbitrary is simply incorrect. Basing that presupposition on a declaration in the Bible is no different than basing one's life on the...

You are welcome. But I’m not buying your God. Your presupposition is that God exists and it is the God of the Bible. You base your understanding of the world on a cobbled together book that is without a consistent reading. It has led humans to acceptance of ignorance, numerous wars, irrational...

Clete, if all truth claims do not need to be supported by logic and reason, on what are they supported?

No clue. Why don’t you tell me

Sure. is it what you believe as well?

If logic is the only way our mind works and the only framework through which thought can be structured where meaning is the result then all truth claims must be established by means of logic and reason no matter your world view, correct?

just make the point

Resisting the urge to keep laughing

ahh, and we know that how? geologic theory is wrong? My hero Alfred Wegener was mistaken?

Are you suggesting you personally clarify the independent basis by which facts are established? Do you accept the fact of plate tectonics? If so, how did you determine the underlying facts that support that theory?

Interesting list. Wonder how mine would be different? I have read 18 on that list. I think I will look for Penrose—The Road to Reality

A dictionary definition of evidence is good to start with "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid", work for you, or do you have a different definition

Hard to beat your logic

Hunh, no, I don't make the Ayn Rand mistake because I am aware there are many flavors of Christianity and many interpretations of the Bible and other Holy Books. Which raises the question of why whatever god exists cannot or will not make things plain and understandable The fact that I can read...

Wow!!

Perhaps I do.

God is a word. I don't hate words. I wrote God because Clete used that word. I wrote your God because Clete used that word and to differentiate it from Allah, Thor, etc. Why do you always seem so angry?

To paraphrase Sgt Friday "Just trying to get the facts, Maam, just the facts" Because some people make a big deal of "no death before the Fall" and read that as NO DEATH, which seems a little different than your reading. When I say death, I mean actual death, physically, since I dont accept...

How would Churchill have prevented WWII?

First question I have is how long was the period between Day 6 and the Fall?