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and still these things you speak of above are metaphors for deeper spiritual meanings, the blood is the lifeforce driving man, when it stops flowing man dies. But since God is a Spirit this Blood is something flowing in a spiritual realm indeed, and we are to drink of that in the New Covenant...

well it has been a problem since the FIRST mistake of man, God spoke the Word/Commandment, Eve misquoted it, added to it...so ya oldest trick in the book. that is why I was trying to explain to you the differences in how people perceive "Gods Word" . It's like anything His Spirit does in man...

I would love a demonstration of that besides hersay. and to be clear, are you speaking of "God's Word" as a specific KJV onlyist mindset, majority text, extant, Q source, Ethiopian Bible, etc. or are you referring to God's word, that dwells within his people and is unchangeable and...

why do you prefer these terms over the once the ancients used, angels of the Lord, messengers of God. I beleive it was Jesus whom described heaven and how there is no marriage there among the 12 sitting on 12 thrones. How can you read from one book the same words, and think in your mind...

you paint a poor picture of the resurrecting power of God. it's my understanding no one is beyond his helping Hand. it seems the early church fathers would agree 2 Peter 3:9. Galatians 6:9<--- let that be an encouragement to you as it was for the listeners of that day.

in Zekes defense he used to be more of a zealot for the WOG than you are! boy you would have had a good time with some religious debates with him back then....:) you two might have butted heads a bit tho, two strong bulls, but now I think he is just saying Toro!

your charge before indicated that the number 7 the papers was used meant it referred to 7 demons in the parable of Jesus. but yet you clearly ignored the correlation to the 7 spirits of God in Revelation. If I didn't know better, one might conclude you are purposefully trying to find fault...

I think the seven spirits being referenced that went out to the churches are found in Revelation 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; and 5:6. Christ holds the seven spirits of God Revelation 4:5. Also the papers to my knowledge do not deny the resurrection of Jesus in 1. The Morontia Transit,

I saw that movie, Nicole what a bute! meeeow! turned out the Others were themselves in the end....:)

I don't, the scriptures stand for themselves, those whom chose to ignore them and do their own thing do so to their own detriment, not mine. :think: while I can have concern for them, I don't concern myself....:eek:

don't let him get under your skin FL, it only itches more when you scratch it!

well you already said you did not mean to say you agree. there are only two other options left after that. disagree, indifferent. :think: Revelation 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth. I think I'd be one way definitively or the...

so you don't agree rules should be enforced unilaterally and doing otherwise gives a bad witness to the lost? per 1 Peter 2:12 you just saw what I was saying, but disagreed, or are completely indifferent? :think:

actually no I have not, certainly not here in this thread, those statements were made in a sarcastic mocking jest to show the absurdity of one of your prior postures. (not mocking you personally but the posit) it wasn't meant to be taken as any assertion on my own part, I'm sure people who are...

well it's a good thing you are so much like Jesus than, it justifies a lot of things you do here in your mind I'm sure. well you tried to force your will on me, by trying to say You're done here. to me. you have no authority over me, not here, not anywhere Matthew 23:9, that is why I said we...

I think it would be more fruitful if you just stuck to the subject/ questions at hand rather than going off on your tangents about your opinions of people. for all the knowledge you claim to have, and claim others do not on these topics you have shared NOTHING of any merit on them as of yet. I...

you've got yourself convinced, that's about it here.

Yep, you asked my how I would apply the rules in in authority. you said, "I can see that" sorry if a mistook that for agreeing if it was not, generally when someone see's something, it's the light! lol

yeah we have a thread on this topic already, the rules are only for certain people....it's always been that way since I've been here. Oddly enough GM seemed to agree with me and what they Bible says about that...in my profile area... :think:

and believers don't read the threads? interesting that you wouldn't want to add something to your side of the topic.... so all they have to read is their side....good strategy.