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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Lets quietly and seriously reflect on what is being shared here.................... Lets quietly and seriously reflect on what is being shared here.................... Remember, truth is living, dynamic, having both 'existential' and 'experiential' attributes, it includes both the 'absolute'...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    God is Greater........ God is Greater........ That is something that is a religious 'belief', when on an another level there is no reason to assume that your own preferred religious book is wholly inerrant. Not even the UB claims to be inerrant, complete, perfect or the FINAL revelation of...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Inspiration and revelation..... Inspiration and revelation..... My former statement stands. We were discussing what the UB claims about itself,....using its own terms of how it defines 'inspiration' and 'revelation'. The UB curiously does not claim 'inspiration' for its cosmology, but it...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    God uses human vessels...... God uses human vessels...... Yep,....men of varying degrees of receptivity, purity and knowledge (plus with various intentions) WROTE and chronicled the books in the Bible. A NT did not even exist while Jesus and his original 12 apostles were alive. Unfortunately...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    God is Spirit.......nothing can be apart from God God is Spirit.......nothing can be apart from God There is only One eternal, infinite, universal and divine Spirit-source and LIFE, from which all existence, and all sentient beings (spirits/souls) originate from and by whose power and...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    The Bible or any other religious book including the UB does not contain the complete, perfect and FINAL revelation of the INFINITE. I accept religious values, spiritual truths and principles WHEREVER they are found. This is the attitude of a student of truth, who recognizes 'progressive revelation'.
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Only the Creator is perfect, but Creation is ever evolving....... Only the Creator is perfect, but Creation is ever evolving....... Actually we as theists or theosophists of various kinds and types usually agree that only Deity or 'God' is 'complete' or 'perfect' in its 'being' and 'essence'...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Revelation and inspiration differentiated...... Revelation and inspiration differentiated...... Yes, but I think an understanding of the terminology used is essential here :) The chapter 'The Limitations of Revelation' in Paper 101 addresses this directly - So we see from above, that...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    A gospel about Jesus, and the gospel of Jesus........ A gospel about Jesus, and the gospel of Jesus........ The UB mentions and explains its view of Paul and his teachings here (68 references) These presentations do NOT present Paul as a bad guy, purposeful liar or a crook. He preached his...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Progressive Revelation...... Progressive Revelation...... Actually, the NT does not contain anywhere a "thus saith the Lord", that is only in the OT, where Christianity is riding on the back or foundation of the OT, with its own 'spin' of course. There is plenty in the UB and other religious...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    healthy skepticism is OK,....but lets expand our theological horizons...... healthy skepticism is OK,....but lets expand our theological horizons...... I think my engagement record here shows I'm much more, but do note that healthy skepticism on any speculative, theoretical or experiential...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    What one finds or discovers is just that, it can mean any number of things or be of some value or non-value depending on the discovery ;)
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Points to consider........... Points to consider........... You mean a collection of books written by men of different cultural time-periods and belief-systems that is believed by some religionists to be 'inspired'. As far as God's own words,....that's debatable, but the principles, meanings...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    The logos of the Spirit............ The logos of the Spirit............ Truth, wisdom, reason, logic is wherever you find it; it is not limited to one collection of books or to some exclusive religious catalogue.
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    One main theme is 'progressive evolution'........ One main theme is 'progressive evolution'........ It would be wise to attend to the meaningful values and principles found in these papers -
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Omnipresence Omnipresence You asked if TOL had room for distorted 'topics'. I amply responded. There is only One infinite Spirit, one Life from which all things and beings derive their existence.....There is nothing 'unfamiliar' to this infinite consciousness which is omniscient. It is One...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    If your insinuating the UB is distorted, its not...since as a whole compendium of papers, it is very uniform, consistent and integrous as far as its cosmology, principles, ethics and morals are concerned. Perhaps 'distortions' may exist within peoples minds or they may be projecting such? :) -...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    We would recommend sticking with that which is 'germane' to the subject :) In-joy!
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Yes, Paul taught and proclaims HIS own gospel...and his own apostleship. Blood atonement is no longer essential, neither was it the only way of atonement in the OT, anyways. My former thread 'Atonement without blood' fully covered this subject. The UB account of Jesus gospel is fundamentally...
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    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Don't forget in this epistle he really shows his disdain and contempt for the original apostles of Jesus,....Peter would not agree with Paul's rant above, since it was Paul's anxiety over his conflict with the Jerusalem community that stirred this up. See Bet Emet Ministries perspective on...
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