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But some of us don't subscribe to the FOGBOM philosphy. I know Jesus didn't. Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews and are not, but lie — indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet and to know that I have loved you. (Revelation 3:9)

I went down to the moorings of the mountains, the earth with its bars closed behind me forever, yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O LORD, my God. (Jonah 2:6) The pit is a reference to a grave.

This is the kind of divergence from the NT that I was talking about. Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age... (Luke 3:23)

Yes, I saw that but it does say specifically that Jesus is equal with the Spirit, which we know from Luke is Jesus' father.

The Urantia stories differ from the NT in many ways. First of all it is trinitarian. The trinity theory denies that the head of Christ is God and denies that it was the Holy Spirit who caused Mary to become pregnant. Also the yearly dates do not agree with Gabriel's prophecy to Daniel about the...

Malcolm Locke is quite a writer. Years ago I used to enjoy John Saul's books.

Nice story, Caino. What is the source of the information? We are told to test the spirits whether they are of God because there are many false prophets. The Urantia stories do not match up with the NT accounts.

Thanks for the links, Freelight. I'm surprised at the divergence between the Urantia stories and the NT.

BTW, Capernaum is located on the sea of Galilee and is less than 30 miles from Nazareth. A beautiful location.

That doesn't make sense. How could a young Jew retire at the age of thirty and support a fair sized entourage traveling around the country preaching for three and one half years? If you have ever spent any time on the road you know it is expensive. Does the Urantia Revelation reveal Christ's...

I had never heard of the Urantia Revelation before seeing reference to it on TOL. So does the Urantia Revelation reveal that Jesus had to be very well off financially to retire at the age of thirty?

In the context of nature the dead do not live again. However, God created nature and he has power over nature. Have you heard the story about Jonah? He died and yet lived again. If a man dies, shall he live again? All the days of my hard service I will wait till my change comes. You shall call...

Where's your proof that the dead don't live again?

Jesus died a horrible death but he got over it. So it can't be all that bad.

If I don't obey God by doing what? What must I say or do that will get me a pass to the new earth? And besides that, what's wrong with this earth? I'm happy where I am and I don't say that casually. I have been from San Diego to Maine and from Seattle to Key West and I am where I want to be...

Really? Forty days of rain flooded the earth, but I guess a thousand years of rain will cure the drought in California. However, why on earth would I want to go to heaven? If heaven was so great God wouldn't have refashioned the earth for us. Some people are never content.

No. Jesus prayed for God's kingdom to come and his will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If God's kingdom is coming to earth why go to heaven and miss all the action? Because Jesus has connections I believe his prayer will be granted. How about you?

If a person is dead they can't move, they can't go anywhere on their own.