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... As per His predestining them to do so, according to your system. Your system has them putting their faith wherever he has predestined them to put it. Which is exactly the problem.

Yes, b57, ergon is just a word. Now you're equivocating. I'm talking about scripture. You're referring to a single word that is used in scripture. A single word can be used in different ways, and the meaning can change based on the context. And, based on the context of the entire Bible...

No, that's just a word. You're not only missing the forest for the trees, YOU'RE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE FOREST! Scripturally, a "work" is something done in order to achieve salvation, or to get to heaven. Faith/believing is NOT done in order to obtain those things, therefore it CANNOT, by...

It's not based on scripture. Just because you're using a word from scripture doesn't mean your interpretation of it is from scripture. Again: Scripturally, a "work" is something done in order to achieve salvation, or to get to heaven. Faith/believing is NOT done in order to obtain those...

PSA: Please take further political discussion to a new thread. This thread is for recognizing/acknowledging Bob's death.

I'm quoting scripture, and all you have are insults?

Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. - 1 Corinthians 10:12 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Corinthians10:12&version=NKJV Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. - Proverbs 16:18...

Your definition of "work" is not based on scripture, but is a modern definition. Scripturally, a "work" is something done in order to achieve salvation, or to get to heaven. It is NOT "an action we do." Works are attempts to be meritorious, they are actions, yes, but it's not because they're...

In other words, the UB is lying, putting words into Jesus' mouth, and you're still quoting it? Shame on you. You need to repent.

Says the one who, as far as I'm aware, is not a medical professional.

And will likely SURVIVE IT, again. Can strike again. Can be worse. Do you have any evidence to suggest that these, while being possibilities, are likely to be the case? or are you spreading FUD just because of the possibility of it striking again, and it possibly being worse? There's a HUGE...

False. Elect just means chosen for a task. Also false. Calvinism makes God out to be a respecter of persons, the elect, because He elected them and not others.

I'm still waiting, Caino. Or would you like to retract that claim? Putting words in the mouth of Christ that He never uttered is called LYING, Caino. At worst, it's blasphemy.

Still waiting on this, Caino.

There were more than 2, Caino. I've never believed (at least since 2015) otherwise.

Chapter verse, please.

WRONG. It's by believing. Yes, Salvation is all of God. But believing is of man. Wrong. "The chosen" are just those who believe. It's not specific individuals, but rather ANYONE who believes. God chose that those who are in Him should be holy and blameless before Him in love. It wasn't...

As RD said, there are many gospels. Which one do you think Jesus taught? Because the one He gave to Paul was different than the one He gave to His 12 disciples. The reason for that is hidden from you, because you have covered your eyes. The problem is that those journeys, while they may have...

WRONG! One gets in Christ by BELIEVING! that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.For the...

You're still missing my point. How does one get into Christ? BY BELIEVING! Which says nothing about those who are not in Christ being able to respond when the gospel is presented to them. === You have yet to answer: