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  1. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    Lets be fair they are both true, lets continue to work to improve the human condition and let's looking at access to firearms as we do so.
  2. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    Marke, I fully admit and always have gun control laws that don't stop the supply of Guns don't work. So with porous borders between cities and states the laws are going to make little difference. Im in the UK its very very hard to get a gun at all and thus gun crime is rare. School shootings...
  3. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    It doesn't tend to happen. We had a serious knife attack in 1996, which ended with 7 pupils injured none killed, and no other significant incidents with multiple fatalities/victims spring to mind. I think a headmaster was stabbed fatally in mind 2010's but that's it for the UK. Its seems to be...
  4. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    Though like the God, the bible and loving discipline, I'm not sure it's the state's job to institute them. Comparing school shootings worldwide there are many secular countries that separate the church and state that don't have regular school shootings. The factora that stand out for the US...
  5. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    That sums up my base position well, but I admit there are exceptions, when violence is the last resort of good people.
  6. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    The issue is the same law that gives you a gun to protect yourself, guarantees that idiots going to have a gun too. I prefer my odds against an idiot with knife compared to an idiot with a gun.
  7. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    It did take a talking head, all it took was his comments, the timing of them and the amount of money he has received from the NRA. But as I think we got close to agreeing on the other thread, there are bigger issues inn the world and i5 does well to keep out minds on both
  8. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    I'm happy with a consistent pro-life position. If we love life with love all life. I'm happy to let God be the judge and it's my job to be a vehicle of grace to all.
  9. This Charming Manc

    Robb Elementary School shooting

    Same here, I was mad fuming at Ted Cruz last night and wanted somewhere to vent. To be fair , venting helps no-one, so hopefully, a more conversational toner will be better. Wishing you and yours well.
  10. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    The first is sorted ( its good fitness to ), the 2nd well all the research i've done and personal experience suggests owning a gun makes you no safer. I had an incident in South Africa where some wonderful gentleman pointed a gun at me and pulled the trigger, but for the grace of God I wouldn't...
  11. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    I think we're all agreed we should do what we can about child poverty in the developing world and good news is much has been done in my lifetime, and continues to be done. Yes you are right that we pay too much attention to things in the west, and not enough in the two-thirds world. Why? the...
  12. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    A decent point, I made it halfway through the video. However, when compared to mature western democracies, you are well out there. If Americans wish to compare themselves with central American countries, with an unstable government, rampant poverty, endemic crime, and failing criminal justice...
  13. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    You are aware it's the Ukrainian army that fighting the Russians, led by their government, with weapons provided by the US and European governments. What is making a difference is NLaw's, Javelins, Drones and shared intelligence. The Russian military is not suffering because Ukrainian...
  14. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    Apart from insults and condescension did you actually say anything of note? So school shootings make you great? OK without me engaging an immediate emotional or moral reaction to that statement, could you care to explain how school shootings make you great? As regards taking guns away, the US...
  15. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    Nice to see you again, I notice you didn't go to charm school in my absence. Some stats for you; UK Knife homicides 2020/21 - 224, it is to high we are addressing the issue where we can. US Gun homicides 2020/21 - 20,000+ I'm suggesting you may want to look at this. Especially as its increased...
  16. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    The rest of the world has government schools without shootings, and I've not looked up the precise stats for mass shootings in the US that's 20+ this year, government schools are not a factor in most of those shootings or your very high homicide rates. Were you serious in suggesting the reasons...
  17. This Charming Manc

    Another Mass Shooting, Another Far Right White Supremacist Trump/MAGA/TuckerCarlson Supporter

    hmm I won't stick around to debate as it will end up being pointless. I'm sure the shooter was broken, socially outcast and had a host of issues. It doesn't sound like politics was part of his build-up atm, but that could come out after time. But the laws that put the guns in his hands and the...
  18. This Charming Manc

    THE UK does not have a socialist government and the current administration is on the right of the political spectrum.

    It not my fault your either ignorant to the facts on the ground or whats right wing and left wing.
  19. This Charming Manc

    THE UK does not have a socialist government and the current administration is on the right of the political spectrum.

    Yeah but 300,000 Americans have been killed by other americans with guns since 911. Brag about it all you want. Its not working.
  20. This Charming Manc

    THE UK does not have a socialist government and the current administration is on the right of the political spectrum.

    OK seems to be you have defined right and left wing by a number of unrelated issues. Which are associated with the political right in the sates but don't always fit with the right in a wider context. Abortion - level a left/right issue in the UK, you will find pro life mp's on both sides of our...
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