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  1. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Those are gigantic IFs though. So gigantic as to be practically meaningless.
  2. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Not a five year old. I don't see it. They're barely old enough to understand that a toy belongs to them at that age, never mind what it would take to end someone's life on purpose. If it's possible at all, it would so rare as to not be worth talking about and the parents of any such child would...
  3. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Anyone ever heard of a five year old murderer? I haven't! I doubt very much that a five year old is even capable of committing the crime of murder.
  4. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Like I said, those who have their eyes closed can't complain about the "absence of evidence" for anything. I wonder what it will take for me to stop wasting my time on this website? I dropped nothing. A free and civil society cannot persist for long absent morals.
  5. Clete

    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    Children are NOT born sinners! People who commit sin are sinners, not newborns! Elizabeth's baby wasn't alienated from God... Luke 1:41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. The only people...
  6. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Ad hominem much? Right. Are you convinced by that? Me neither! That might have something to do with Catholicism being more than half false and the fact that the closer you get to Oxford the further from the truth and reality you're probably getting, especially when it comes to theology. You...
  7. Clete

    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    Except that it explicitly says that God's will wasn't done. The is specifically and explicitly what it says. The ONLY reason you have for saying otherwise is that your doctrine demands it. You read your doctrine into every passage that you can and ignore the passages that explicitly contradict...
  8. Clete

    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    That's right. It started with Augustine's veritable worship of Aristotle and Plato who taught that God was immutable and Augustine's bishop who taught him how to interpret the bible in the light of Aristotle. It is literally a case of bringing a preconceived doctrine to the bible and reading...
  9. Clete

    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    I wonder what percentage of the bible b57 has never read, or worse, chooses to ignore in order to maintain his belief in the unjust god of Calvin? Deuteronomy 4:28 And there you will serve gods, the work of men’s hands, wood and stone, which neither see nor hear nor eat nor smell. 29 But from...
  10. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    The proof that God exists is literally everywhere. Those who don't see it, don't want to see and and refuse to be shown. And I'm not the least bit concerned about your personal opinions about me. The fact is that I do HATE homosexuals, and proudly so! Hatred toward those who willfully destroy...
  11. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    If I were to put anyone to death it would be murder. That isn't the question and you know it. It doesn't have anything to do with what is being discussed at all. It is the governing official that doesn't "bare the sword in vain" (Romans 13:4) not regular civilians like you and me. Why are you...
  12. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Why change the tense? I find it fascinating when people refuse to give a straight answer to questions that answer themselves. Of course God was not wrong when He said that those who commit homosexual acts are to be put to death. The real question is why do you say otherwise?
  13. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    He does more than condemn it, He says that those guilty of such crimes deserve the death penalty, in both the Old and the New Testament. Was God wrong?
  14. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Christians aren't told to kill anyone themselves (discounting things like self-defense and war). That's what the government is for and only then upon conviction of a capital crime in a court of law. Do you feel the same about murders?
  15. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    Why not? Galatians 3:24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
  16. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    No one is pretending to speak for God. That's why there's a bible. You don't believe the bible is God's word but I know that it is for a fact. Rigtheousness is NOT a matter of opinion. Something is either righteous, evil or amoral. If you (i.e. anyone) believe something immoral is righteous then...
  17. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    God HIMSELF said... Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. WAS GOD WRONG? Answer the question!
  18. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    I know that's what you were doing. My point is precisely that. In short, you need to adjust yourself. Paul explicitly states that homosexual deserve death. Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in...
  19. Clete

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Okay, @Catholic Crusader, I found it! I was off on the years just a bit, but I was pretty close considering I first saw this referrence almost thirteen years ago.... Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius said, in the original Latin.... "Nam & alterius Principis edictum non ita pridem legi, qui vicem...
  20. Clete

    Religious Zealotry

    It was neither Christianity nor Islam that said that homosexuals should be put to death. It was GOD Himself... Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them...
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