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  1. Clete

    Can God lie?

    What are you even talking about? No one here has ever suggested that God would ever lie to one of His own!
  2. Clete

    Can God lie?

    "Allowing a deluding influence of some sort, because the people aren't willing to hear the truth" seems a bit redundant, doesn't it? Hey, those people over there are blind, therefore, I'm going to poke their eyes out! Hey, those people over there are refuse to listen, therefore, I'm going to...
  3. Clete

    Can God lie?

    You read my mind!
  4. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Thank you for conceding the debate.
  5. Clete

    Can God lie?

    @Derf, Were are just going in circles. If you've got something of substance to add then great. Otherwise, I'll chalk it up as yet another conversation where the disagreement boiled down to conforming ones doctrine to the plain reading of scripture vs conforming the meaning of the text to fit...
  6. Clete

    Can God lie?

    It isn't subjective at all. I don't understand why you won't answer the question and why you seem to need to squirm around the plain reading of the text of scripture. The question is too generalized to say with certainty. It would depend upon what is at stake in the case. The laws in this...
  7. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Excellent opening post in that thread. (y)
  8. Clete

    Can God lie?

    That's true. At least that's what it feels like. :) Well, you've done more than that, you keep making arguments that only make sense if we're saying that lying isn't ever a sin, which you now have affirmatively acknowledged that you understand not to be the case. So, why do you keep making the...
  9. Clete

    Can God lie?

    No one has ever said, "Lying wasn't evil." That's you twisting what we've said into something you can argue against. What we've said is that lying isn't always evil. From this point forward, all I'm going to do is to keep on repeating this same exact point until you acknowledge it.
  10. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Or your doctrine is wrong and lying isn't always a sin.
  11. Clete

    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    The problem at the border is politcal in nature. The law is being intentionally ignored by those who are supposed to enforce it and they are doing it for political reasons in contradiction to their oath of office. It's fix is simply the application of the law, which will not happen so long as...
  12. Clete

    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    Agree with what? That you're not a Christian? You know nothing about either God's word or His Spirit. You don't even have a child's understanding of what justice is! How could you possibly understand the gospel much less have accepted it as true?
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    I will no longer act as if you're a Christian. You have no grounds to debate against me on any Christian topic. You are not practicing the Christian religion any more than a Morman would be. If God does not exist nothing can be proven at all.
  14. Clete

    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    Don't ever make the mistake of thinking that it appropriate for you to correct me. You'll be invariably wrong - no matter what. I stated the sentence precisely as intended. Irrelevant. No one suggested otherwise. It doesn't even make any sense, you dullard! Fairness has exactly nothing to do...
  15. Clete

    Can God lie?

    No! That's your question begging presupposition again! It very simply is NOT a lesser evil. Telling a lie to protect the innocent is one biblical example of an act of righteousness - NOT EVIL!
  16. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't.
  17. Clete

    Can God lie?

    We are going in circles. Remember the point about when the bible tells us that God does not repent and I pointed out that He doesn't repent OF EVIL and how God cannot do evil in the sense that doing so would be against His will and no one has the ability to make God act against His own will and...
  18. Clete

    Can God lie?

    We don't believe that because that isn't "the only way such could be justified". Rather than saying that 'it is never a sin to lie to someone in authority over you' we say, in agreement with the biblical material, that 'it is NOT ALWAYS a sin to lie to someone in authority over you'. Pretty...
  19. Clete

    Can God lie?

    I can live with that.
  20. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Yes. Same question as before. What does it mean to be the "epitome of absoluteness"? The point being that I doubt that you can explain it because its basically a meaningless thing to say. It is, at best, a tautology, which is why I said that "God is what He is.". False. King Sol I Samuel 13:13...
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