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You can see a live fake video of the flat-but-looks-round Earth here.

What about the Google Lunar X project. It is a completely private operation, and includes private groups and volunteers from many nations.

Oh. No problem there. Those who measured Antarctica are liars. Part of the conspiracy. That's how debate works- don't you get it?

The Turtle Moves!

Dave, what you basically do is claim that any evidence that the earth is a globe is false up-front. All scientists from all generations are frauds. You will not consider any evidence whatsoever that the Earth is not flat. Or that gravity is real (recall how you dismissed the Cavendish...

So leaving aside for a minute who these Illuminati etc, are...Let's think who ought to know better, but helps keep the fraud going. Historians ought to know, since they claim that Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the Earth. Have they been mislead by a few historians long ago that...

And these people are the Illuminati and some other group.. who are these people, and how are they going to control the world by this fraud?

Dave, This means I have been deliberately misled by hundreds of pilots, hundreds of astronauts, tens of thousands of astronomers, participants in the Google Lunar X contest, and countless others (did I mention historians?). Many of these people are not atheists, including many Christians. All...

Dave- Why are they hiding the truth from us? What's the purpose of this massive fraud?

Mr. DFT Dave has a handy habit of posting links to long videos, and ignoring posts that contain uncomfortable facts. We have been stupidly wasting our time with him. His self-imposed ignorance is rock solid.

DFT. You really do ignore uncomfortanble posts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment The Cavendish experiment, performed in 1797–1798 by British scientist Henry Cavendish, was the first experiment to measure the force of gravity between masses in the laboratory[1] and the first to yield accurate values for the gravitational...

DAVE, DERN IT! This is not a religious issue. It is a question of facts. Speaking of which- did you ever hear of Copernicus?

Um, Dave? Um...geocentrism predated relativity by a few centuries. And the round earth was understood many many centuries before that. You are confusing historical facts. Is this deliberate?

The shape of the Earth has nothing to do with the concepts of multi-universe or relativity. Or quantum mechanic. Nor do those theories have anything to do with the shape of a basketball or pancake. You are simply muddying the waters- or your own head is muddied. The shape of the earth was known...

So why flat? One could make an equally good case for it being a cube, or shaped like a coffee mug- or a Mobius strip.

So why flat? One could make an equally good case for it being a cube, or shaped like a coffee mug- or a Mobius strip.

Not my time. Any volunteers?

Dave, if someone tells you upfront that they will not listen to any argument or consider any fact, then there isn't room for discussion. It is like trying to convince an ISIS member with earplugs in his ears to become a Methodist.

Dave, I was trying to help you understand that you've gone down a wrong track here. I even asked you what could possibly convince you- and you repeatedly ignored my question. As far as I can tell, you are dead-set on this, and there is no argument or evidence that could possibly change you mind...