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What's funny (to us "non-believers") is you rant on about how crazy Dave is about FE but don't see any problem with your chosen preferred deity and its antithesis. I may be naive but you folks are certifiable.

Paying attention isn't something you do is it? Listening isn't a skill you've mastered yet. I doubt you have the requisite knowledge to understand the video.

Just once it would be nice if you would actually engage the point instead of blabbering nonsense. You have a very bad habit of insisting exceptions are the rule. As you see, the "site" does NOT "presume stars are light years away". Do you know how much light the Sun emits and how far away it...

Nope. "How far the human eye can see depends on how many particles of light, or photons, a distant object emits." Do you know how much light the Sun emits and how far away it would have to be before your naked eye would not be able to detect it? The Sun has an absolute magnitude of 4.83 (if it...

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This makes absolutely no sense... even with a picture, which is so badly out of scale it misrepresents how the horizon actually appears. Your "argument" is nonsense disguised in meaningless rhetoric.

:liberals: We KNOW "perspective" exists, belief isn't necessary except for a blind man. We can't "see" what lies beyond the horizon because the Earth is curved, round, an oblate spheroid. Atmospheric refraction can, on occasion, allow light from objects beyond the horizon to be visible. That...

Fixed it... thanks, :e4e:.

"At the same time" is meaningless according to Special Relativity for several reasons. Educate yourself. Do this thought experiment, release a 16# bowling ball directly over your bare foot. How long did you think it will take for you to moved your foot out of the way after you release the ball...

Look! Up in the sky!! It's a bird!!! It's a plane!!!! It's a satellite!!!!!? It's Mr. Fredricksen's house!!!!!!

Were they all blown up by Mr. Fredricksen? (Who gets the joke?) What is it then? A space station? You sure seem eager to embrace and defend nonsense. What is it we're supposed to see?

So? Your point is...? Needlessly? When you quote a source saying, "... neutrons are, BY DEFINITION, protons sandwiched to electrons...", you are spreading something patently false. Electrons are fundamental particles. Protons are made up of three fundamental particles, 2 up quarks and 1 down...

One-dimensional thinking seems to be the only way you analyze a problem. How, exactly, does one "circle a target" without "travel(ing) around" it? You've been a member of TOL since the year (for Knight's benefit) 2005 and have read the word "supra" and NEVER considered what the word meant in...

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:drumroll: Too late, that happened a long time ago.

Once again, Dave, you exhibit one-dimensional and non-critical thinking. At the basic level "orbit" means to travel around (usually some thing) in a circular or elliptical path. A satellite can orbit the Earth or a warplane can orbit a potential target.

Let's try again, shall we? No, its evidence of refraction caused by the Earth's atmosphere. As I've told you before one can NEVER see the actual object they are "looking" at. What we see, you included, is light reflected off of the object or light emitted from the object even if the object is...

I'm pretty sure my post contained significantly more than four words. Instead of replying to my substantive and detailed response you focused on a single word because you have no idea of its meaning (even though you were told). You should close this thread because you prove yourself an idiot...

No, its evidence of refraction caused by the Earth's atmosphere. As I've told you before one can NEVER see the actual object they are "looking" at. What we see, you included, is light reflected off of the object or light emitted from the object even if the object is inches in front of your...