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  1. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You keep ignoring whether one that switches from believing faith in Christ to Satan will end up in the new heaven and new earth. John 17:3 ESV And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
  2. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Certainly not me.
  3. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    No argument there. BOTH.
  4. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    So when one switches from having believing faith in Christ for believing faith in Satan they are going to be in the new heaven and new earth anyway? What does believing faith IN CHRIST mean then?
  5. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    ROFL! I'm in the best place ever. My believing faith is in the Lord Jesus Christ, not MADism.
  6. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    I believe one can most certainly teeter totter between believing faith in Christ and believing faith in another. If one dies after they switch from believing faith in Christ to another, they will be judged as one without believing faith in Christ. There aren't gonna be any unbelievers in the new...
  7. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    No one will be assured of eternal life if they switch from have believing faith in Christ to having believing faith in another.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    So you think someone can not have believing faith and get eternal life? Jesus says one can believe for a while and then stop believing, so yeah, I'll got with Jesus on that one.
  9. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Not what I said or what scripture says. Scripture says they can be grafted back in IF they choose to have believing faith again.
  10. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You're not very bright. I can spot it when you believe your delusional lie that I am not who I say I am.
  11. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You don't get that if you quit having believing faith.
  12. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Believing faith.
  13. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Maybe you have forgotten that it was Jesus that said some will for a while, but stop. Matthew 13:20-21 ESV As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation...
  14. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Never. If one stops having believing faith they are cut off, unless you think Paul was wrong.
  15. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Good. You offer nothing of value.
  16. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You aren't. If one does not have believing faith that endures they won't be saved. If you quit having believing faith you won't be saved. It has to do with all. If you quit having believing faith you won't be saved. Saying it doesn't make it not so. Well, duh. That's not the argument I made...
  17. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    That's what I said.
  18. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Genesis 17:1-6 ESV (1) When Abram was ninety-nine years old the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless, (2) that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.” (3) Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to...
  19. Tambora

    These are NOT the same gospel

    It is Paul that included himself and Peter in the "we" of his statement. You can believe Paul or not for all I care.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    I think both Peter and Paul were fulfilling their role to bring men from all nations to Christ since they both knew that was the desire of God.
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