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  1. Clete

    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    It may be a semantic difference but I think it an important one. God's divine nature was not overlaid with a separate human nature but He, while remaining divine, CHANGED into a human being. He became flesh. Not fallen flesh, but flesh nonetheless. He was a divine human. He is a divine human...
  2. Clete

    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    We are to "recon" this to be true, by faith. The former is true of us positionally and we are to live by this spiritual truth by faith. The later is the reality that we are currently dealing with while we wait for the fulfillment of our hope which is Christ. If this were not the case then no...
  3. Clete

    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    It is not two natures! I keep coming across people who say this but they never seem to actually think it through. Jesus is NOT two people. He is ONE person. There was a time before He became a human being but when He became a human, that change was a real change. It was not some sort of costume...
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    I was not making any attempt to rank the "bigness", if you'll allow the term, of one change over another. Whenever I discuss the issue of God changing in various ways, I try to focus on the incarnation, suffering and resurrection of Christ because there is no one who can call themselves a...
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    Engaged Perfection: : The Relational Nature of God

    I've been doing some reading and studying lately. Much of which is in response to some rather wacky arguments that I've been confronted with concerning the issue of divine immutability. I had someone actually attempt to argument that the doctrine of divine immutability logically required the...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    It should be made clear that I do not mean to say the 90+ percent of molested children become homosexuals. That is definitely and thankfully not true. What is true, however, is the converse of that. Nearly all homosexual males are victims of childhood sexual abuse. Their first sexual experiences...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    @Idolater, I did some looking into what I have saved on my own computer and it turns out that I had two books confused. The book, "What to Do Until the Psychiatrist Comes" is indeed a good source of information about this topic but it was not the book that had various lists of how to raise...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    I was actually able to find an online article that both quotes from and links to some of the genetic studies that really do prove that a person is not born gay.... The ‘Born Gay’ Myth: When Ideology Masquerades as Science Not quite the citation you asked me for but its a step in the right...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    Citing this information would be very nearly impossible to do today. It's too politically incorrect to have such truths published any longer. In the 90s it was common knowledge that homosexuality is a psychosis brought on by prolonged sexual contact between a child between the ages of 5-8 years...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    Very nearly all male homosexuals do have that kind of history. If you executed convicted child molesters, rather than allowing them to adopt their victims, you'd have almost no homosexuals in your society within a generation. It is quite different for the female version of the same perversion...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    It's both, I'd say. That is not to say, however, that they are equivalent sins. Jesus taught that if you lust after a women, you've committed adultery in your heart but He was not advocating the death penalty for lust. Thus, a longing to sin is itself a sin, which is a major part of why the...
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    Reasons against homeschooling?

    "Preference" isn't the word I would use. It's an aberration and/or a psychosis. I prefer green beans over peas and always have. I don't believe that preference was learned, in fact, I'm reasonably certain that I was born hating peas because even my Meyers Briggs personality profile somehow knew...
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    What is Open Theism position on inerrancy of scripture?

    So what do you do with the fact that God is going to turn back to Israel after the fullness of the Gentiles has come in? Romans 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to...
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    What is Open Theism position on inerrancy of scripture?

    This is off topic but.... Any of you here that are familiar with Bob's work will likely remember him citing a quotation of C. S. Lewis about God not being moved by love. I cannot find any such statement in any of Lewis' works. Am I remembering it wrong? Can any of you remember the specific...
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    Paul Harrell is dead.

    I'm not so sure about two things... First, I'm not so sure that such a situation could not exist for four decades. Populations throughout history have gone bonkers for much longer than that. Nearly the whole population of Russia and China truly believe that Communism isn't just a good thing but...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    While sulfur boulders are consistent with the HPT, I'm not sure that their existence is affirmative evidence for the theory. Also, just to restate it for the record, I happen to buy most of the HPT. I definitely think it does a much better job of explaining Earth's geology than Plate Tectonics...
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    Adam and or Eve had all the viruses.

    Previously populated Earth? Are you just responding to something Ciano said or do you believe that the Earth was populated prior to Adam and Eve being fruitful and multiplying (Genesis 1:28)? I mean, I know Ciano brought it up, but the way you worded the question makes me wonder whether you...
  18. Clete

    Jesus is God !

    This is the sort of thing that Ps82's method of formulating doctrine produces.....
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    Jesus is God !

    No one needs your help to read the bible. Your additions are just you reading your doctrine into the text. This is EXACTLY the way David Koresh and Yahweh Ben Yahweh formulated their doctrine. Indeed, this is how Augustine and Calvin did their doctrine as well, although not to such a degree as...
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    Jesus is God !

    This is you reading your doctrine into the text and ignoring an obvious figure of speech. If your interpretation of this verse was correct and applied consistently, it would not be the image that was the firstborn of creation is would be God the Son Himself that was created because the verse...
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