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Men know all things. 1 John 2:20 Current knowledge, not future knowledge. "Declaring the end from the beginning" is not "knowing everything that will happen in the future." Again, present knowledge. "God can know our thoughts before we put them into words," not "God knows our thoughts...

Duplicate thread. https://theologyonline.com/threads/the-trinity.32093/

"We're not going back."

You seem to be having a hard time understanding "Ontology." I recommend looking it up, at the very least. Time is not an ontological thing. Same with space. They do not exist outside of a thinking mind.

@Clete

I just wasn't entirely sure that it was another sock account for TheDarkSideOfTheMoon. His more recent posts pretty much confirmed that he was, otherwise he would have been banned a lot earlier.

Not necessarily. A clock is something that measures consistent, recurring intervals. Sequence does not necessitate consistent, recurring intervals. Yes.

You seem to have lost the plot of the thread. Let's recap: Again, time is not an ontological "thing." It doesn't exist outside of a thinking mind. God existed prior to creation (necessity of time as a precondition to creation; iow time was not created). God has always existed. God...

Buh-bye! Pretty sure at this point this is a sock account for a recently banned member. The "."s above below the text pretty much confirms it. That and the obsession (yes, obsession) with attacking open theism. Please don't return, Cygnus.

Again, if it's not free, it's not a will, by definition. Adding "libertarian" and "free" is redundant. And in the context of this discussion, insisting on using "libertarian free will" is just a way for you to try to escape the consequences of your position, in that anything other than...

Putting aside for a moment the fact that the verse you are referring to is about God's patience and longsuffering, which is stated by the verses immediately following that one, why would would God need to know this?

And with that, I win!

RD said everything I was going to say anyways. Why should I repeat what has already been said? Come down off your high horse for a moment, would ya?

Let's just start by pointing out that "libertarian free will" is a doubly redundant term. If it's not free, it's not a will, by definition. You won't find many Arminians here. On the contrary, Open Theism is just the belief that God is free, therefore the future is open. If you're saying...

Within the immediate context, no. But in another sense, yes.

Why does God need to measure time?