Biblical is what it is.
It's only heretical for those who worship Aristotle's god.
Honest struggles on God’s omniscience.
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It's only heretical for those who worship Aristotle's god.
No, you read that into whatever passages you're thinking of.
Biblically, God knows what He wants to know of that information that is knowable.
There is not one single syllable of the bible you can find that will contradict that statement. Any and every attempt you make will require you to read your doctrine into the text.
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Ok. So instead of trying to reason cordially, by being patient and loving, and instead of trying to help me understand, and reason and persuade, we will automatically assume that I’m reading what I believe into whatever passages I’m thinking of, and claim that any and every attempt I make will require me to read my doctrine into the text. However, I fully believe God is omniscient.
Having said that, did it ever occur to you that I’m simply trying to understand, learn and see if there’s another view to reconcile God’s omniscience with man’s freedom of choice in a way that resolves some “tension” that people have? I guess not…
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(Revelation of John 9:20-21) [20] And the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and golden, and silver, and bronze, and stone, and wooden idols (which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk). [21] And they did not repent of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
(Revelation of John 16:9-11) [9] And men were burned with great heat. And they blasphemed the name of God, He having authority over these plagues. And they did not repent in order to give Him glory. [10] And the fifth angel poured out his vial on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom became darkened. And they gnawed their tongues from the pain. [11] And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores. And they did not repent of their deeds.
Jesus never said ,"I am G-d"
Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord and mighty in power. His understanding is infinite.
you put a limit on his understanding to the past and only some of the present .
(Deuteronomy 18:22) When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not follow nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You shall not be afraid of him.
(Revelation of John 16:9-11) [9] And men were burned with great heat. And they blasphemed the name of God, He having authority over these plagues. And they did not repent in order to give Him glory. [10] And the fifth angel poured out his vial on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom became darkened. And they gnawed their tongues from the pain. [11] And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores. And they did not repent of their deeds.
what is it with opentheist and G=d being unjust
foreknowledge is not the same as causing or approving it
(James 1:13) Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one.
who is preventing these people of repenting ?
(Revelation of John 9:20-21) [20] And the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and golden, and silver, and bronze, and stone, and wooden idols (which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk). [21] And they did not repent of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
the bible is about man changing ,you have it backwards
the bible is not about G-d changing
He already knows what people will do (or pray), and He incorporates those responses into how He interacts with us in time.
the bible is about man changing
did G-d know Nineveh would repent if Jonah preached , yes
foreknowledge
(Jonah 1:17) And the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. ...
open theist have G-d needing to go to sodom to figure it out if the place was evil , so much for all knowing ,
G-d did want a conversation with Abraham to teach us and Abraham
(Genesis 18:21) I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which has come to Me. And if not, I will know
teaching moments
men have to change, not G-d
you have no change from God without change from man ,
so it can be said it is God's uses his foreknowledge for teaching interventions
and G-d's foreknowledge tells that they don't repent
(Revelation of John 16:9-11) [9] And men were burned with great heat. And they blasphemed the name of God, He having authority over these plagues. And they did not repent in order to give Him glory. [10] And the fifth angel poured out his vial on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom became darkened. And they gnawed their tongues from the pain. [11] And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores. And they did not repent of their deeds.