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    the church

    Well, there is a lot there that could be responded to but responding directly to each point is not called for here because I think I get the gist of your position. Let me just ask you to respond to few points which I think are central to this particular topic.... Would you agree with the...
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    the church

    The truth is not a matter of opinion. So, this right here is the reason I asked the question. You claimed that "the point is not whether the interpretation suits one's doctrine, but whether the interpretation is true." Yet when asked how such truth is to be determined, you immediately appeal to...
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    the church

    And how, in your view, are we to determine that?
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    No I don't. I specifically stated that your THEORY doesn't hold because THE THEORY makes a category error. That's the last I'm responding to. All you're doing is accusing me of what I've demonstrated you're guilty of, which is classic reactionary transference that isn't worth my time.
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    the church

    No one here denies the use of idioms, metaphors, hyperbole, analogies, symbolism, or other figures of speech. Scripture plainly contains all of those things. What we deny is the idea that the existence of figurative language gives us permission to spiritualize any passage that conflicts with...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    From the post you wrote immediately prior to having made this statement... "If this is correct, then the unity‑of‑the‑Trinity problem is resolved." You don't get to have it both ways. At best! The problem is that you present it not as a mere theory but as what you believe to be the case...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    It seems it is you who stops half way through reading things for I addressed that EXACT point in my post! "Instead, this article wants regress to be explanatory. Where the infinite regress actually grounds the thing in question. The problem is, you don’t get that just by saying it. Appealing to...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    I read the article “Turtles all the way down” : The Unity of the Trinity as Eternal Regress in the Godhead". I wanted to read something he's written to get a feel for what sort of thinker he is, or whether he is one at all. I chose this one because it's a relatively recent writing and because I...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Ah! The source of his copy/paste jobs!
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Like I said, he doesn't respond to arguments. He's just in repeat himself mode.
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    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Not because the Ten Commandments says so, I'm not! Here's a question Idolator does NOT know the answer too... What's the difference between following the law and being righteous? Conversely.... What's the difference between breaking the law and sinning?
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    MWinther seems to have taken leave of his senses. He doesn't respond to arguments and seems to be trying not to make any rational sense. He's just found a way to believe whatever the hell he desires for the bible to teach. Why such people care to call themselves Christian baffles me. He's no...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Then, perhaps instead of trying to sound educated, you should try to communicate your ideas more clearly. This is an overstatement that cannot have been anything other than intentional. Luther's doctrine could hardly be any more saturated with Augustinianism if he tried! Calvinism, which is...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    I can assure you that I am not joking. That's because they don't "just open the bible and read it, as if the truth were simply written there in black and white"! The doctrine of Sola Scriptura is self-defeating. No they don't. This is an extreme over reaction. There are teachers and there are...
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