Recent content by Clete

You pull the silliest nonsense from the most obscure passages imaginable and ignore the plain reading of the text! Genesis 18: 20 And the Lord said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, 21 I will go down now and see whether they have...

That post takes YOUR STATED doctrine and applies it to things you don't have the intelligence for it to have ever occurred to you to apply it to. Attacking the moral character of the person who made the argument rather than the argument itself. Very convincing! LOL!

Probably true. DEFINITELY a lie! The omni-doctrines, including omnipresence (it is NOT a hyphenated word), are not taught anywhere in the KJV bible or any other bible for that matter. God is certainly infinite but likely not in the way this vacuous moron means it. Nonsensical...

There is no such thing as "God's permissive will". There is what God desires and then there is what actually happens. They are often not the same thing. That's the only thing in your whole post worth responding to.

The God who created mankind and, more specifically, made the eyes with which they see things, is capable of causing them to see what He wants them to see, when, where and how He wants them to see it. Further, there is no indication that God is intrinsically invisible, He can choose to be seen...

Except for all the biblical (and rational) support that has been shown and that still exists for the entire world to read on this very thread! People seem to have such a desire to reject my doctrine to the point of deluding themselves into thinking that the argument doesn't exist beyond the...

Saying it doesn't make it so. I explained why yours is unfalsifiable. My position I have established biblical and rationally. FUNCTIONALLY!!! Look up the term. Call me a liar again, RD. In fact, no need. Why should I treat you any differently than any other intellectually dishonest waste of...

Stupidity. I didn't read the rest. When you decide you want to engage the discussion honestly. I'll pick it back up. Until then, you're a waste of time.

Then your position is unfalsifiable. It is functionally identical to the Calvinist position, even if operating from a different premise. It, of course, is directly relevant and cannot be otherwise. The name of the thread is... "What Happens to the Severely Backslidden Christian?" I...

I figured. I've read the book a few times. Chances are good that I'd remember it if this teaching was in there. It's going to for sure be in the Bible Studies. Likely in the set of studies on Ephesians.

Unlikely does not mean impossible. Rare does not mean non-existent. God is not a magician and is not capable of forcing someone to want to stay in heaven if they flatly don't want to do so. Why would He even want to do so? And we know that the severely backslidden do exist. Charles Templeton...

The longer this discussion goes, the more I think about how rare such a person is likely to be. It depends a lot on just what it takes to get saved in the first place. There's a super wide spectrum of beliefs on that point. Some TV preachers stupidly believe that if they ask some random...

I'd search for any mention of the "day of redemption". If the teaching is in the book, it could not be presented without mentioning that phrase.

https://www.theologyonline.com/threads/what-happens-to-the-severely-backslidden-christian.61468/

Much of the debate around eternal security and apostasy boils down to a false dichotomy. Either you are eternally secure and therefore incapable of ever walking away from God, or you can lose your salvation at any moment through sin, disbelief, or some other failure. I reject both extremes. The...