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  1. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Finally admitted it?! I've never denied it! Yes, that's why the men who created America, wisely created a system where there are three separate branches that each check the power of the other two. Unbelievably wise thing to do that has propelled this country well beyond any achievement that any...
  2. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    It is above the king. The law is above the king. Those who enforce the law, enforce it against those who are under it. It is the only way such a system would work without creating a tyrant. That's proven by the whole history of government. As for responding to you entire post, there isn't any...
  3. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    I barely had time to even read all of that. Bob's proposed constitution is a human institution. As proposed, it is installing a king that has carte blanche to do whatever he desires to do. As such, it is doomed to failure, very likely near immediate failure. It cannot be made to work - at least...
  4. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    No doubt!
  5. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    (y) Two things here. First, your premise seems to be more than just that authority flows downward from God. Your premise is that it is a unidirectional flow even after such authority reaches a human government; that there can be no such thing as shared authority and that any sort of check or...
  6. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Assuming your story is true, you have an idiot pastor and he has an idiot student. The blind leading the blind. As for your pastor, he seems not to understand the difference between talking to God (prayer) and talking to an audience (very common among modern pastors, by the way). As for you...
  7. Clete

    Was Gen 1 and 2 one event blended or two separate events?

    It isn't the mere use of personal pronouns that is the problem! Of course you knew that when you wrote this silly comment. Where do "your ideas" come from? Should people take "your ideas" seriously on the basis of the mere fact that you showed up to present them? The answer to those questions...
  8. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    I answered your question the best way I know how. This is not a yes or no question either. It depends on how the system is structured. Generally speaking, the king occupies the highest office and does not normally answer to anyone. In Bob's proposed system, that position is absolute, but it...
  9. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Asked and answered.
  10. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    They should be. The king is not under the law in the proposed constitution, except in theory and only barely that, it seems. The population is left to wait out the life span of a rogue king and just hope that his heir isn't as bad or worse.
  11. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Once again, this would only be so if the judges wrote the law or could remove the king by fiat. If all they are doing is performing a legal duty then it is not the men but the law that is removing the king by the same authority by which it also seated him. Only if they are the source of the...
  12. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Ultimately, as is the case for all rightful authority, it originates with God. From there, however, authority is distributed by law from, to and through various offices for various purposes. That is what the rule of law means. A king does not rule simply by virtue of his birth. He rules because...
  13. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Everything before the bolded comment above was wasted time. Both for you to type and for me to read and even that either missed or ignored the point that had been made. You are asking to prove something that your premises will not allow before it has ever been presented. You've taken away the...
  14. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    This is not the answer I expected. Every other statement you've made indicated to me that you believed that the mere existence of any such mechanism would break the entire structure by introducing an internal contradiction that would be systemically fatal. Indeed, based on the whole of this...
  15. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    It's hard to understand how it can be that you don't see your own contradictory statements. You make it quite clear that you believe that there can be no such mechanism; that any mechanism strong enough to be effective would be usurpative by definition and then in the next breath you want to me...
  16. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    That's only partially true. The HPT isn't Bob's work and it is only portions of it that I disagree with. I find it's basic premise quite plausible. This is a much more productive direction! If my criticism of Bob’s proposal is correct, then the next step would be to write the failsafe. I have...
  17. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Because history is replete with nations that "waited out" a wicked king to be replaced with his heir who turned out to be wonderfully righteous in spite of having been raised and trained by the wicked king.
  18. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    It's clearly a rationalization. I've never said it was a dodge. See what I mean? Rationalization! No, he cannot. Commands do not make themselves. It's the king's command that is being judged. Indeed, it is specifically whether the actions of the king are legal that is being judge - by men -...
  19. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    @JudgeRightly, Yet another new direction from which to make the same essential point.... Civil disobedience is explicitly sanctioned by the proposed constitution... "Any amendment or command issued by the King in defiance of this Constitution including one that increases taxes, gives all...
  20. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    I cannot imaging how it is possible for you to write something on the order of a 2000 word response to such a simple post and you do so without finding anything new to say. The point I made wasn't about hierarchy so much as it was about the fact that a criminal is treated like a criminal even...
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