Was Gen 1 and 2 one event blended or two separate events?

Ps82

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Idolatry is to have a god besides the God of the Bible. It means inventing him in your mind. Not just bowing down to Mary or a golden calf.
I asked for you to: List the "some of your (my) work" you single out as idolatry please.

IOW ... let me try making the request more clear. I did state it in an odd manner.

QUESTION: You have only given me a definition for the word Idolatry. I wanted for you to single out specific things, which I had written, which made your think I was committing idolatry.
 

Nick M

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I asked for you to: List the "some of your (my) work" you single out as idolatry please.
Our first clue came from Elohiym/God in Genesis 1 when he said: "Let us make man in our image." The Spiritual God was already thinking about working as multiple personages while remaining the one all encompassing Spiritual God.
It isn't just this thread.
 

Clete

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It isn't just this thread.
Ps82 (I still think using scripture references as user-names should be against the rules - it feels sacrilegious to be forced to refer to her in such a manner) knows what you're talking about. Her asking you to list specifics is a ploy - a tactic. You're doing well not to fall for it.

Ps82,

EVERY SINGLE SYLLABLE YOU TYPE on this website is idolatry. ALL OF THEM! No exceptions - period. If there is an example of you saying "Jesus is God!" that too, coming from you, is idolatry. So if you want examples of your idolatry, then go pick ANY statement you've made at random and there you will have your example.

No, I will not explain. He who has an ear, let him hear.
 

Nick M

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Can you remember one or two?
How about 2.
For me God (the elohiym of Gen. 1 and Strong's Concordance) is God the Spirit. He has existed eternally. He worked 6 days before LORD Father God. We might could say with a human perspective that in a list of the personages of the Trinity: HE came first for he was eternal.

The Son, (who was the Christ Jesus as Emmanuel) was God spiritually and he followed the Father LORD God when he worked. He became the third person of the Trinity of personages who are God.
 

Ps82

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I quoted you. You don't have to be at the level of Adolph Hitler (a non-Christian idolater) to commit idolatry.
I agree and here is an example.

The children of Israel were worshiping the LORD God who delivered them out of Egypt with great miracles. Aaron was God's chosen high Priest but when the people became worried about Moses delaying upon the mountain for so long, some among them felt like the people would fall away unless they had some way of worshiping and keeping faith that Moses would return. Well, Aaron succumbed to their concerns and agree to form them an idol so THEY COULD WORSHIP THE LORD!!!! Out of the fire came a calf ... and they worshiped the idol.

Even though they intended to worship the LORD God with it they were worshiping a figure that did not represent HIM at all!

The true God is a living God. Also, HE looked like mankind (aka Adam - actually Adam looked like HIM for God had his image before HE shared the likeness with Adam - oh well). This lifeless of a bull certainly did not represent the true identity of the living God.

They believed in the LORD... but they practiced idolatry at that time. God severely punished them. This is why I think God was severe at that time:
God was sanctifying the truth about himself in the eyes of his people and the world. If he were to be misrepresented in the eyes of the world then that falsehood had to be corrected... for it would mislead all people about who he really was. People would always think he was a bull!

So I agree with you. You don't have to be a non-Christian like an Adolph Hitler to commit idolatry. The children of God in Moses's Day committed Idolatry. I did not even know Hitler worshipped an idol.
 

Ps82

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Self-importance is a typical mark of a cultist.
I thought this was a place where people came to discuss what they see in scripture. How can I discuss my ideas without using personal pronouns? Do you always use He said, They said, or You did this and that?
 

Clete

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I thought this was a place where people came to discuss what they see in scripture. How can I discuss my ideas without using personal pronouns? Do you always use He said, They said, or You did this and that?
It isn't the mere use of personal pronouns that is the problem! Of course you knew that when you wrote this silly comment.

Where do "your ideas" come from?

Should people take "your ideas" seriously on the basis of the mere fact that you showed up to present them?

The answer to those questions and others like them is where the problem lies.

The simple fact of the matter is that no one here cares what YOU THINK and, more importantly, no one should! This is a Christian web forum where the things we discuss have mostly to do with ultimate truths. What you don't seem to understand is that such truths are not a matters of personal opinion, God does not need your help nor is He is search of a partner.

What people here are interested in is what you can establish as true. What you believe is not nearly so interesting as WHY you believe it. Is it based on something objective that can be established rationally or is it just your own personal opinion that is based on little to nothing more than your feelings and haphazard personal impressions? If your doctrine can be effected by how much gas your previous meal generated, it isn't worth your time to even type it up, much less anyone's time to read and respond to.
 
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