Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

[JudgeRightly]

I can. Just tell me which one.

You can start by doing it for all of your claims in this thread.

 

[Clete]

Please name one claim that requires evidence.

EVERY claim requires evidence, Chrys!!

 

[chrysostom]

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The Apocalypse - a new interpretation based on numbers and colors
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Who wrote it?
The Byzantine Empire has all the pieces.

 

[chrysostom]

"He that hath an ear, let him hear"

 

[chrysostom]

let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches

 

[chrysostom]

You can trust numbers and colors.
Your interpretation, not so much.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You can start by doing it for all of your claims in this thread.

Still waiting, @chrysostom.

 

[chrysostom]

Get over it.
Because
He that overcometh shall inherit all things

 

[chrysostom]

a prophecy fulfilled
A Number To Connect It To History -
A reliable interpretation. A word that all translations agree on. A thousand, 666, ten, and seven. Look for these numbers in history. See if they all fit. Heads and horns could be dynasties according to Newton. And easier to count. Just ask AI.

 

[chrysostom]

a thousand years
A Number In Daniel -
A number of the years. A thousand year empire where they reigned with Christ. The Byzantine Empire. A fit with the other numbers. Its capital was attacked in the year 666. It was the end of The Roman Empire with seven dynasties. It was the beginning of the Islamic Empire with ten dynasties.

 

[chrysostom]

a number, a mark, a date, a year, 666
A Place To Start -
A Julian calendar starting in 44 BC would have the Hijra of 622 starting in 666. Gibbon has the attack on Constantinople starting 46 years after the Hijra. Put 46 in an Islamic calendar converter and you will get 666. A calculation in most translations, not a count.

 

[Idolater]

Its capital was attacked in the year 666.

A Julian calendar starting in 44 BC would have the Hijra of 622 starting in 666. Gibbon has the attack on Constantinople starting 46 years after the Hijra. Put 46 in an Islamic calendar converter and you will get 666.

Why don't you just go with what the early Church said? I don't understand why you're so confident that the early Church didn't know what they were doing. It makes no sense to me. Caesar Nero literally in Hebrew (Hebrew alphabet just like every alphabet has consonants which make up Nero's literal name, everybody knew his name, it was printed on coins that we still have a bunch of even today, we've got literal samples of coins from Nero's lifetime with his NIL right on them) "counts" to 666. The early Church said 666 is Nero. idk why you don't just believe the early Church knew what they were doing. It makes no sense to me.

 

[chrysostom]

It makes no sense to me.

You are not alone. Have you looked at all the other interpretations? 666 is just one data point. How do you identify and fit all the others? I have spent over 25 years looking at nearly everything that has been published on the Apocalypse just to prove that Rome is not Babylon the Great. I have clearly done that.

 

[Right Divider]

Why don't you just go with what the early Church said?

You mean the church in the wilderness?

 

[Nick M]

Why don't you just go with what the early Church said?

Which one? They don't say anything. Paul said we (the Body) depart before the man of sin is revealed. And that is about it.

 

[Idolater]

You mean the church in the wilderness?

Which one?

Very cute, boys.

 

[Right Divider]

Very cute, boys.

It's a legit question that exposes your ignorance and false organization.

 

[chrysostom]

a beast with ten horns shall hate the whore
A Ten Dynasties Named By Islam -
A great city falls to the Ottoman Empire, the tenth dynasty of Islam. Constantinople was started by Constantine a thousand years before it fell in 1453. The Roman Empire had seven dynasties and the one started by Constantine was the fifth one. Babylon the Great has all the numbers including 666.

 

[Idolater]

It's a legit question that exposes your ignorance and false organization.

Only if you're right.

 

[Right Divider]

Only if you're right.

And... I AM right.

When both Romanists and Protestants (anyone really) talks about the "early church", I already know that they are completely confused. Typically, the "early church" refers to a mythological organization that began on the lawfully required Jewish feast day of Pentecost. Most of Churchianity (Catholics and Protestants, et al) believes that a "church" began on that day, but the Bible says otherwise. The following are some Biblical facts:

• The Bible says that there was a church in the wilderness (Acts 17:38) that was MUCH earlier than the mythological one that supposedly began in Acts 2.
• The Bible says that the "church" in Acts 2 was NOT BEGAN, but was ADDED to (Acts 2:47).
• The Bible says that the "church" in Acts 2 was thoroughly Jewish (along with Jewish proselytes) ]Acts 2:10]. No random gentiles involved.

Acts 7:38 (AKJV/PCE)​

(7:38) This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:​

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Acts 2:47 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:47) Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.​

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Acts 2:10 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:10) Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,​