Reconciled by the cross on this day, Thursday.

[Nick M]

Feel free to boast in the cross on Good Friday. But the scripture implies Thursday. And I have easter baskets for my teenage daughters.

(Matthew)27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole garrison around Him. 28 And they stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him. 29 When they had twisted a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand. And they bowed the knee before Him and mocked Him, saying, “Hail, King of the Jews!” 30 Then they spat on Him, and took the reed and struck Him on the head. 31 And when they had mocked Him, they took the robe off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him away to be crucified.

32 Now as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name. Him they compelled to bear His cross. 33 And when they had come to a place called Golgotha, that is to say, Place of a Skull, 34 they gave Him sour wine mingled with gall to drink. But when He had tasted it, He would not drink.


35 Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet:

“They divided My garments among them,
And for My clothing they cast lots.”

36 Sitting down, they kept watch over Him there. 37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him:

THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

(John) 31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

And it pleased the LORD.


10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.

 

[Nick M]

1My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?
Why are You so far from helping Me,
And from the words of My groaning?
2 O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear;
And in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But You are holy,
Enthroned in the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in You;
They trusted, and You delivered them.
5 They cried to You, and were delivered;
They trusted in You, and were not ashamed.

6 But I am a worm, and no man;
A reproach of men, and despised by the people.
7 All those who see Me ridicule Me;
They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 “He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him;
Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!”

9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb;
You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts.
10 I was cast upon You from birth.
From My mother’s womb
You have been My God.
11 Be not far from Me,
For trouble is near;
For there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have surrounded Me;
Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me.
13 They gape at Me with their mouths,
Like a raging and roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water,
And all My bones are out of joint;
My heart is like wax;
It has melted within Me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
And My tongue clings to My jaws;
You have brought Me to the dust of death.

16 For dogs have surrounded Me;
The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me.
They pierced My hands and My feet;
17 I can count all My bones.
They look and stare at Me.
18 They divide My garments among them,
And for My clothing they cast lots.

19 But You, O Lord, do not be far from Me;
O My Strength, hasten to help Me!
20 Deliver Me from the sword,
My precious life from the power of the dog.
21 Save Me from the lion’s mouth
And from the horns of the wild oxen!

You have answered Me.

22 I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.
23 You who fear the Lord, praise Him!
All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,
And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel!
24 For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
Nor has He hidden His face from Him;
But when He cried to Him, He heard.

25 My praise shall be of You in the great assembly;
I will pay My vows before those who fear Him.
26 The poor shall eat and be satisfied;
Those who seek Him will praise the Lord.
Let your heart live forever!

27 All the ends of the world
Shall remember and turn to the Lord,
And all the families of the nations
Shall worship before You.
28 For the kingdom is the Lord’s,
And He rules over the nations.

29 All the prosperous of the earth
Shall eat and worship;
All those who go down to the dust
Shall bow before Him,
Even he who cannot keep himself alive.

30 A posterity shall serve Him.
It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation,
31 They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born,
That He has done this.

And according to Luke's testimony

2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and demonstrating that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I preach to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas.

 

[rstrats]

What do your comments have to do with Thursday?

 

[Nick M]

What do your comments have to do with Thursday?

It is the day he was crucified on.

 

[Bladerunner]

Feel free to boast in the cross on Good Friday. But the scripture implies Thursday. And I have easter baskets for my teenage daughters.

(Matthew)27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole garrison around Him. 28 And they stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him. 29 When they had twisted a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand. And they bowed the knee before Him and mocked Him, saying, “Hail, King of the Jews!” 30 Then they spat on Him, and took the reed and struck Him on the head. 31 And when they had mocked Him, they took the robe off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him away to be crucified.

32 Now as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name. Him they compelled to bear His cross. 33 And when they had come to a place called Golgotha, that is to say, Place of a Skull, 34 they gave Him sour wine mingled with gall to drink. But when He had tasted it, He would not drink.


35 Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet:

“They divided My garments among them,
And for My clothing they cast lots.”

36 Sitting down, they kept watch over Him there. 37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him:

THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

(John) 31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

And it pleased the LORD.


10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.

why did they no leave them up on the crosses if it were a thrusday for there was no sabbath day that comes after Thursday. The bible is specific here. between 3pm (His death) and 6pm (beginning of another day) and that day beinng a sabbath Day (Thursday).

 

[Nick M]

why did they no leave them up on the crosses if it were a thrusday for there was no sabbath day that comes after Thursday. The bible is specific here. between 3pm (His death) and 6pm (beginning of another day) and that day beinng a sabbath Day (Thursday).

It is a high sabbath, which doesn't mean Saturday. It was the Passover. If he is in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights, Friday to early Sunday morning does not work.

 

[Bladerunner]

It is a high sabbath, which doesn't mean Saturday. It was the Passover. If he is in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights, Friday to early Sunday morning does not work.

I agree and as far as the High Sabbath goes, the rules for it were the same as a regular sabbath...no working, no traveling, etc. Passover 14th Nisan with the 15th being the LORD's feast of Unleavened Bread. Jesus was in Bethany on a Friday evening and could not travel any further until after the Sabbath on Saturday. Thus He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey on that Sunday, 4 days before His death on Wednesday.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I agree and as far as the High Sabbath goes, the rules for it were the same as a regular sabbath...no working, no traveling, etc. Passover 14th Nisan with the 15th being the LORD's feast of Unleavened Bread. Jesus was in Bethany on a Friday evening and could not travel any further until after the Sabbath on Saturday. Thus He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey on that Sunday, 4 days before His death on Wednesday.

Jesus didn't die on Wendnesday.

 

[Clete]

Jesus didn't die on Wendnesday.

There are three main camps on this question. Which do you find most compelling?


1. Traditional View: Friday to Sunday

Burial: Late Friday afternoon

Resurrection: Early Sunday morning

This view counts any part of a day as a full day (Friday = day 1, Saturday = day 2, Sunday = day 3).

Problem: There are not three nights, and it feels like a stretch of Jesus’ own statement.


2. Wednesday Crucifixion View

Burial: Late Wednesday before sunset

Resurrection: Late Saturday before sunset (so that He rose "on the third day")

This gives:

Wed night–Thu day = 1

Thu night–Fri day = 2

Fri night–Sat day = 3

Jesus rises after three full days and nights, before sunset on Saturday.

Pro: Fulfills “three days and three nights” literally

Con: Some argue this places too much time before Sunday morning when the tomb was found empty.


3. Thursday Crucifixion View

A middle ground:

Thu night–Fri day = 1

Fri night–Sat day = 2

Sat night–early Sunday = 3

Partial days still, but arguably closer to fitting “three days and three nights” than the Friday view.

Pro: Puts the resurrection closer to dawn Sunday, while still allowing more than 36 hours in the tomb.

 

[Nick M]

It is a high sabbath, which doesn't mean Saturday. It was the Passover. If he is in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights, Friday to early Sunday morning does not work.

This isn't my calculation.

 

[Bladerunner]

Jesus didn't die on Wendnesday.

which day then?

 

[Right Divider]

which day then?

Well... it most certainly wasn't Wendnesday!

 

[7djengo7]

Well... it most certainly wasn't Wendnesday!

That sounds like a portmanteau for a fun day-off from school in the 80s: get hamburgers and Frosties at Wendy's and play The Legend of Zelda on the NES all day!

 

[JudgeRightly]

There are three main camps on this question. Which do you find most compelling?


1. Traditional View: Friday to Sunday

Burial: Late Friday afternoon

Resurrection: Early Sunday morning

This view counts any part of a day as a full day (Friday = day 1, Saturday = day 2, Sunday = day 3).

Problem: There are not three nights, and it feels like a stretch of Jesus’ own statement.


2. Wednesday Crucifixion View

Burial: Late Wednesday before sunset

Resurrection: Late Saturday before sunset (so that He rose "on the third day")

This gives:

Wed night–Thu day = 1

Thu night–Fri day = 2

Fri night–Sat day = 3

Jesus rises after three full days and nights, before sunset on Saturday.

Pro: Fulfills “three days and three nights” literally

Con: Some argue this places too much time before Sunday morning when the tomb was found empty.


3. Thursday Crucifixion View

A middle ground:

Thu night–Fri day = 1

Fri night–Sat day = 2

Sat night–early Sunday = 3

Partial days still, but arguably closer to fitting “three days and three nights” than the Friday view.

Pro: Puts the resurrection closer to dawn Sunday, while still allowing more than 36 hours in the tomb.

which day then?

See my responses here:

Maunday Thursday

Does anyone who is familiar with Maundy Thursday, the day during Holy Week which commemorates the washing of the feet and last supper of the Messiah with the apostles know what part of Thursday that this took place - during the night time at the beginning of Thursday, or during the daytime...

theologyonline.com

 

[Clete]

See my responses here:

Maunday Thursday

Does anyone who is familiar with Maundy Thursday, the day during Holy Week which commemorates the washing of the feet and last supper of the Messiah with the apostles know what part of Thursday that this took place - during the night time at the beginning of Thursday, or during the daytime...

theologyonline.com

So, part of the day Thursday (died at about 3 PM) and Thursday night. (9 hours by modern clocks)
All of Friday (day and night) (24 hours)
All of Saturday (day and night) (24 hours)
Rose on what we would call early Sunday morning but before sunrise. (6 hours - tops)

That would make for approximately 63 hours in the grave.

That would cover 3 days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday), and nearly 3 nights (Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, although He rose before the third night fully concluded).

Interesting that it would span parts of four days but yet be less than 72 hours.

It also fits the fact that the Passover lambs were being slaughtered on that Thursday afternoon since Friday was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was a high Sabbath.

Indeed, Jesus would have to have died on that Thursday or else He wouldn't qualify as the "Lamb of God" and whole symbolism of Passover wouldn't work.

 

[JudgeRightly]

So, part of the day Thursday (died at about 3 PM) and Thursday night. (9 hours by modern clocks)
All of Friday (day and night) (24 hours)
All of Saturday (day and night) (24 hours)
Rose on what we would call early Sunday morning but before sunrise. (6 hours - tops)

That would make for approximately 63 hours in the grave.

That would cover 3 days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday), and nearly 3 nights (Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, although He rose before the third night fully concluded).

Interesting that it would span parts of four days but yet be less than 72 hours.

It also fits the fact that the Passover lambs were being slaughtered on that Thursday afternoon since Friday was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was a high Sabbath.

Indeed, Jesus would have to have died on that Thursday or else He wouldn't qualify as the "Lamb of God" and whole symbolism of Passover wouldn't work.

Yeah, had Bob never done that interview with Dr. Grady McMurtry, I'd probably still believe in Friday crucifixion, even though it doesn't fit at all, or worse, not have a belief on the matter...

 

[Clete]

Yeah, had Bob never done that interview with Dr. Grady McMurtry, I'd probably still believe in Friday crucifixion, even though it doesn't fit at all, or worse, not have a belief on the matter...

I missed that link when I skimmed the thread earlier. Listening to the interview now!

 

[Clete]

@JudgeRightly,

So, just for the fun of it, I transcribed the audio of that interview into text (using Whisper Web) and fed the text into ChatGPT and had it present a timeline of the Passover week.....



Timeline of the Passion Week: Fulfilling the Passover in Exact Detail

This timeline lays out the biblical events of Jesus' final week—from His entry into Jerusalem to His resurrection—with special attention to how these events fulfill the typology of the Passover. The timing, the language, and the symbolism are strikingly precise. Drawing from biblical texts and insights shared by Bob Enyart and Dr. Grady McMurtry, here is how the Passion Week unfolds:

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Sunday, 10th of Nisan
Jesus Enters Jerusalem as the Lamb is Chosen
On this day, Jewish families were instructed to select a lamb without blemish for the Passover sacrifice (Exodus 12:3). Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey, publicly presenting Himself as Israel's King and the true Lamb of God. For the next four days, He was in the temple daily, questioned by the Pharisees, Sadducees, scribes, and Herodians—just as the lamb was to be examined for blemishes. After this prolonged scrutiny, and even an actual trial, Pilate declared: "I find no fault in Him" (John 19:4). In fulfillment of the type, the Jews responded by calling for His death, just as the lamb, once declared spotless after four days of scrutiny, was to be slain at the 9th hour on the 14th of Nisan.

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Wednesday, 13th of Nisan (Preparation Day)
The Last Supper and Betrayal
Although this was not the Passover meal itself, Jesus gathered with His disciples in the upper room to eat a meal that night, which is traditionally called the Last Supper. During this meal, Jesus instituted the Lord's Supper, explaining that the bread and wine represented His body and blood—offered for many. This was the same night He was betrayed by Judas, arrested in Gethsemane, and put on trial before the Sanhedrin.

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Thursday, 14th of Nisan
Crucifixion and Burial Before the High Sabbath
Jesus was taken before Pilate in the early morning. After further interrogation and scourging, He was sentenced to death and crucified by 9:00 a.m. (the third hour). Darkness fell from noon to 3:00 p.m. (the ninth hour), at which time Jesus cried out and died, the very time the Passover lambs were being slain in the temple. His body was laid in a nearby tomb hastily but reverently, before sunset.

That evening, just a few hours after Jesus’ burial, faithful Jews all over Jerusalem—including Jesus’ own disciples—would have sat down to eat the Passover meal. And while they may not have fully grasped what had just happened, how could that meal not have felt different? Their teacher, their Lord, had been killed mere hours earlier. His words from the night before—“This is My body… this is My blood”—would have been ringing in their ears as they handled the unleavened bread and drank the wine. They may not have yet understood that Jesus Himself was the true Passover Lamb, but the memory of His final supper with them would have been vivid, immediate, and impossible to ignore. In hindsight, after the resurrection, they would come to see it all clearly (Luke 24:44-49): the very Lamb of God had been slain, and they had dined with Him the night before His sacrifice and the full meaning of His newly instituted "Lord's Supper" would have become clear. That year, the shadow had finally given way to the substance.

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Friday, 15th of Nisan (High Sabbath)​

This was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a special “high Sabbath” (John 19:31), regardless of what day of the week it fell on. It also marked the beginning of the barley harvest and the lead-up to the Firstfruits offering. No work could be done, and Jesus’ body rested in the tomb. This was the first full day Jesus lay in the grave.

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Saturday, 16th of Nisan (Weekly Sabbath)
The Tomb Remains Sealed

This was the regular weekly Sabbath. Again, no work could be done. Jesus remained in the tomb the entire day. This was the second full day of His burial.

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Sunday Morning, 17th of Nisan
The Resurrection: On the Third Day
Very early on Sunday, before dawn, the women came to the tomb and found it empty—Jesus had risen. While some modern readers assume “three days” means a full 72 hours, Jesus said He would rise on the third day, not after three days. He was buried just before sunset on Thursday and rose before sunrise on Sunday, a span of roughly 63 hours—more than two full days, but not a full three. His resurrection occurred exactly as He foretold: "on the third day".

That Sunday also marked the offering of the Firstfruits (Leviticus 23:10–11), when the priest would wave the first sheaf of the barley harvest before the Lord. Jesus, “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” (1 Corinthians 15:20), rose on that very day, fulfilling the prophetic type.




P.S. This exercise was a text book example of why you cannot count on Chat GPT to get things right. I spent more than two hours correcting Chat GPT about all sorts of details throughout this timeline. It kept getting the dates wrong and mixing up what happened on Thursday with what happened on Friday and all sort of annoying things like that. I could almost have written it faster on my own! I think I got it all ironed out but if anyone finds an error, let me know and I'll correct it.

 

[Nick M]

It also fits the fact that the Passover lambs were being slaughtered on that Thursday afternoon since Friday was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was a high Sabbath.

I read this from unbelieving Jews when they are asked to comment on the "New Testament".

 

[Nick M]

His words from the night before—“This is My body… this is My blood”—would have been ringing in their ears as they handled the unleavened bread and drank the wine. They may not have yet understood that Jesus Himself was the true Passover Lamb, but the memory of His final supper with them would have been vivid, immediate, and impossible to ignore. In hindsight, after the resurrection and the giving of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost (understood to be the ending of the "Passover season"), they would come to see it all clearly: the very Lamb of God had been slain, and they had dined with Him the night before His sacrifice and the full meaning of His newly instituted "Lord's Supper" would have become clear. That year, the shadow had finally given way to the substance.

I believe the chat is incorrect with these specific details. Only Luke (and later Paul) pointed out the meaning was hidden from them. At Pentecost, speaking by the Holy Spirit not one word was uttered about him dying for their sin. Because Jeremiah did not declare it. The 70th week will make reconciliation for the nation. Not for the individuals of course. Peter told them to change their ways be baptised (washed with water, ceremonially) and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit to deal with the 70th week.