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ok doser

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Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children


Firearms have surpassed motor vehicle crashes as the leading cause of death among American youngsters, with official data showing a strong rise in gun-related homicides such as the killing of 19 children in a Texas school rampage.
The data covers Americans from age 1 to 19.
Two thirds of the deaths were homicides.
Males were significantly more likely to be killed by guns than females.
And black children were four times more likely to be killed then white children.

And so we come to the same conclusion that I've been telling you for 20 years - firearm death statistics are driven by young black males.

And nobody has cared for 20 years. Nobody is going to Care this time. Because racism. Anytime anybody on the right has proposed to address this racially charged issue the left screeches racism. So the right throws up their hands and says "let the black leaders handle it."

But the black leaders don't want to handle it any more than the politicians on the left want to handle it. It's an issue that they profit from. And they don't give a damn about the loss in lives.

 

Catholic Crusader

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The data covers Americans from age 1 to 19.
Two thirds of the deaths were homicides.
Males were significantly more likely to be killed by guns than females.
And black children were four times more likely to be killed then white children.

And so we come to the same conclusion that I've been telling you for 20 years - firearm death statistics are driven by young black males.

And nobody has cared for 20 years. Nobody is going to Care this time. Because racism. Anytime anybody on the right has proposed to address this racially charged issue the left screeches racism. So the right throws up their hands and says "let the black leaders handle it."

But the black leaders don't want to handle it any more than the politicians on the left want to handle it. It's an issue that they profit from. And they don't give a damn about the loss in lives.


That is good info. But remember her title, "Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children", and then remember what I said to Anna, that a gun is just an object; it is not a disease or an animal. A gun cannot kill a kid. Only a person using a gun as a tool can kill a kid.

Anna is pushing 100% propaganda

Guns cannot be a cause of death for American children, only the people wielding them are the "cause".
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
That is good info. But remember her title, "Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children", and then remember what I said to Anna, that a gun is just an object; it is not a disease or an animal. A gun cannot kill a kid. Only a person using a gun as a tool can kill a kid.

Anna is pushing 100% propaganda

Guns cannot be a cause of death for American children, only the people wielding them are the "cause".
The first thing that got my spidey senses tingling was the choice of age range because I know that early childhood diseases are the chief cause of mortality for young children. That's why they excluded the first year. Secondly, I couldn't find any data to support it, but from looking into this in the past the homicide rates for young black males raise precipitously at age 13 or 14 and keep rising through age 26. which made the other part I found curious understandable, including the ages 18 and 19 in what they were calling children.

In other words if they had been looking at the statistics from birth through end of seventeenth year, there wouldn't be a story.

As a former professional statistician, I appreciate their cleverness in cherry picking the data set they used. 👍
 

PureX

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If the US had Switzerland's military, liberal gun policies wouldn't exist. Every home is required to possess a rifle. The result? The # of murders per one million people in the US is 42. In Switzerland it's 7.
We are not Switzerland. We never were, and we never will be. These fantasies of every-man-a-soldier are absurd and outdated. Just idiotic. And even the Swiss realize it. Your cache of army guns and parafinalia aren't going to do you any good at all if we are ever actually attacked by any modern nation's military. They also aren't going to do you any good at all if you are attacked by our own military. So apart from idiots playing fantasy army man, that junk is useless to civilians. Except to lunatics who want to murder blacks and gays and school children.
 

PureX

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That is good info. But remember her title, "Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children", and then remember what I said to Anna, that a gun is just an object; it is not a disease or an animal. A gun cannot kill a kid. Only a person using a gun as a tool can kill a kid.
Which is why we need to stop those people from getting those guns.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Your cache of army guns and parafinalia aren't going to do you any good at all if we are ever actually attacked by any modern nation's military. They also aren't going to do you any good at all if you are attacked by our own military.
Tell that to the North Vietnamese

Tell that to the Afghan rebels

Tell that to the Iraqi insurgents

Tell that to all of the mostly Muslim terrorist groups that we've been fighting for 21 years now and longer with no end in sight.
 

PureX

Well-known member
So...

No, it wouldn't and yes.

Gotcha.
So your theory is that if gun regulation can't completely stop all gun crime, we should have no regulation at all.

But then, motor vehicle regulation and traffic laws don't stop all motor vehicle crime, so I guess we need to get rid of those, too. And the laws against kidnapping, rape, and torture don't completely stop kidnapping, rape, and torture, either, so I guess we'll have to eliminate those laws, too. Because the theory here, is if we cannot achieve 100% compliance, we should do nothing at all.

Right?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
So your theory is that if gun regulation can't completely stop all gun crime, we should have no regulation at all.

But then, motor vehicle regulation and traffic laws don't stop all motor vehicle crime, so I guess we need to get rid of those, too.
If a law doesn't stop crime it should be examined and changed
And the laws against kidnapping, rape, and torture don't completely stop kidnapping, rape, and torture, either, so I guess we'll have to eliminate those laws, too.
If those laws aren't effective then they should be examined and changed
Because the theory here, is if we cannot achieve 100% compliance, we should do nothing at all.

Right?
If you outlaw gun sales, do you expect 100% compliance?
 

marke

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Yeah, let those red coats try invading us now, huh!
Or let the red hats wage war now.

Lori Lightfoot Urges 'Call to Arms' Against Supreme Court Over Roe v. Wade​


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ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Train up a child to fear God and he will not murder others like a deranged Darwinian monkey.
My kids played with space laser guns ala Buzz Lightyear. Somehow they never were prompted to taking them into space and killing aliens wantonly.
 
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Catholic Crusader

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Which is why we need to stop those people from getting those guns.

Hey Einstein, drugs are illegal and people get them all the time.

Right now gun regulation is already over the top and it only hurts law abiding citizens, not the killers. When are people like you going to wise up and understand that fact.

Watch this. Seriously, watch it:

 

marke

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Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children


Firearms have surpassed motor vehicle crashes as the leading cause of death among American youngsters, with official data showing a strong rise in gun-related homicides such as the killing of 19 children in a Texas school rampage.
In 2016 there were 4,074 deaths of children in the U.S. from auto accidents. 274 children died from respiratory disease. 340 died in fires. 599 died of heart disease. 1,225 died of suicide. 235 died from unintentional accidents. 1,853 died from malignant neoplasm. 1,865 were murdered. 995 drowned. 982 died of drug overdoses. 979 died of congenital anomalies.

Taking guns away from cops, from soldiers, from law-abiding Americans, and from security officials will do very little to stop kids from dying. If more good Americans are armed against bad Americans with weapons the children will be safer.
 

Catholic Crusader

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Banned
In 2016 there were 4,074 deaths of children in the U.S. from auto accidents. 274 children died from respiratory disease. 340 died in fires. 599 died of heart disease. 1,225 died of suicide. 235 died from unintentional accidents. 1,853 died from malignant neoplasm. 1,865 were murdered. 995 drowned. 982 died of drug overdoses. 979 died of congenital anomalies.

Taking guns away from cops, from soldiers, from law-abiding Americans, and from security officials will do very little to stop kids from dying. If more good Americans are armed against bad Americans with weapons the children will be safer.

@annabenedetti does not care about facts. Fake News is her new drug and she is hooked.
 

marke

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Freedom’s Safest Place​


Obama loved Hugo Chavez, the Marxist who destroyed Venezuela. Liberals in the US did not learn from Venezuela's communist mistakes and are foolishly seeking to implement the same mistakes in America, like gun confiscations.


Gun Control Preceded the Tyranny in Venezuela​


Fox News recently published an excellent article highlighting Venezuelan citizens’ regret over the gun control policies the Venezuelan government has implemented since 2012. Naturally, this regret is warranted. The Venezuelan government is among the most tyrannical in the world, with a proven track record of violating basic civil liberties such as free speech, debasing its national currency, confiscating private property, and creating economic controls that destroy the country’s productivity.

Elections have proven to be useless, as they’ve been mired with corruption and charges of government tampering. For many, taking up arms is the only option left for the country to shake off its tyrannical government. However, the Venezuelan government has done well to prevent an uprising by passing draconian gun control, which will be detailed below.

Under the banner of fighting crime, Venezuela implemented a ban on the sale of firearms and ammo in 2012. Like other gun bans, this proved futile in fighting crime. According to the Venezuelan Violence Observatory’s statistics, Venezuela’s murder rate increased from 73 murders per 100,000 people in 2012 to 91.8 murders per 100,000 people in 2016.
 

marke

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Hey Einstein, drugs are illegal and people get them all the time.

Right now gun regulation is already over the top and it only hurts law abiding citizens, not the killers. When are people like you going to wise up and understand that fact.

Watch this. Seriously, watch it:

If misguided officials refuse to allow a good person to get a concealed permit then the good person has no choice but to carry a gun without a permit if he still wants to provide security for himself and his family. I carried a gun for years without a permit, and even used a gun I had no permit for to stop a violent crime in progress.
 
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