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Lon

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To the contrary, I do think critically, that's why even as a child in Sunday school I never believed the Israelites version of history.
No, you think 'incredulously.' Right off the top, we KNOW the UB is hogwash when they claim 'celestial beings' give 'bad science on purpose.' Amounts to being lied to and it is rubbish. Next? YOU are supposed to be reading the NEW Testament! You are not a Jew. I'm not a Jew. Get a major clue!
 

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Some scientific claims made in the revelation have since been validated although unpopular at the time. Some things have not.

The New Testament is contaminated by Old Testament thinking but I did read it without your permission;)
 
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THE EVOLUTIONARY NATURE OF RELIGION​

92:1.1 The evolution of religion has been traced from early fear and ghosts down through many successive stages of development, including those efforts first to coerce and then to cajole the spirits. Tribal fetishes grew into totems and tribal gods; magic formulas became modern prayers. Circumcision, at first a sacrifice, became a hygienic procedure.

92:1.2 Religion progressed from nature worship up through ghost worship to fetishism throughout the savage childhood of the races. With the dawn of civilization the human race espoused the more mystic and symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of truth itself.

92:1.3 Religion arises as a biologic reaction of mind to spiritual beliefs and the environment; it is the last thing to perish or change in a race. Religion is society's adjustment, in any age, to that which is mysterious. As a social institution it embraces rites, symbols, cults, scriptures, altars, shrines, and temples. Holy water, relics, fetishes, charms, vestments, bells, drums, and priesthoods are common to all religions. And it is impossible entirely to divorce purely evolved religion from either magic or sorcery.

92:1.4 Mystery and power have always stimulated religious feelings and fears, while emotion has ever functioned as a powerful conditioning factor in their development. Fear has always been the basic religious stimulus. Fear fashions the gods of evolutionary religion and motivates the religious ritual of the primitive believers. As civilization advances, fear becomes modified by reverence, admiration, respect, and sympathy and is then further conditioned by remorse and repentance.

92:1.5 One Asiatic people taught that “God is a great fear”; that is the outgrowth of purely evolutionary religion. Jesus, the revelation of the highest type of religious living, proclaimed that “God is love.” UB 1955
 

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THE EVOLUTIONARY NATURE OF RELIGION

92:1.1 The evolution of religion has been traced from early fear and ghosts down through many successive stages of development, including those efforts first to coerce and then to cajole the spirits. Tribal fetishes grew into totems and tribal gods; magic formulas became modern prayers. Circumcision, at first a sacrifice, became a hygienic procedure.

92:1.2 Religion progressed from nature worship up through ghost worship to fetishism throughout the savage childhood of the races. With the dawn of civilization the human race espoused the more mystic and symbolic beliefs, while now, with approaching maturity, mankind is ripening for the appreciation of real religion, even a beginning of the revelation of truth itself.

92:1.3 Religion arises as a biologic reaction of mind to spiritual beliefs and the environment; it is the last thing to perish or change in a race. Religion is society's adjustment, in any age, to that which is mysterious. As a social institution it embraces rites, symbols, cults, scriptures, altars, shrines, and temples. Holy water, relics, fetishes, charms, vestments, bells, drums, and priesthoods are common to all religions. And it is impossible entirely to divorce purely evolved religion from either magic or sorcery.

92:1.4 Mystery and power have always stimulated religious feelings and fears, while emotion has ever functioned as a powerful conditioning factor in their development. Fear has always been the basic religious stimulus. Fear fashions the gods of evolutionary religion and motivates the religious ritual of the primitive believers. As civilization advances, fear becomes modified by reverence, admiration, respect, and sympathy and is then further conditioned by remorse and repentance.

92:1.5 One Asiatic people taught that “God is a great fear”; that is the outgrowth of purely evolutionary religion. Jesus, the revelation of the highest type of religious living, proclaimed that “God is love.” UB 1955
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Earlier concepts of "plural deities" among the Semites and Canaanites.

"The progress of the Hebrews from polytheism through henotheism to monotheism was not an unbroken and continuous conceptual development. They experienced many retrogressions in the evolution of their Deity concepts, while during any one epoch there existed varying ideas of God among different groups of Semite believers. From time to time numerous terms were applied to their concepts of God, and in order to prevent confusion these various Deity titles will be defined as they pertain to the evolution of Jewish theology:

96:1.3 1. Yahweh was the god of the southern Palestinian tribes, who associated this concept of deity with Mount Horeb, the Sinai volcano. Yahweh was merely one of the hundreds and thousands of nature gods which held the attention and claimed the worship of the Semitic tribes and peoples.

96:1.4 2. El Elyon. For centuries after Melchizedek's sojourn at Salem his doctrine of Deity persisted in various versions but was generally connoted by the term El Elyon, the Most High God of heaven. Many Semites, including the immediate descendants of Abraham, at various times worshiped both Yahweh and El Elyon.

96:1.5 3. El Shaddai. It is difficult to explain what El Shaddai stood for. This idea of God was a composite derived from the teachings of Amenemope's Book of Wisdom modified by Ikhnaton's doctrine of Aton and further influenced by Melchizedek's teachings embodied in the concept of El Elyon. But as the concept of El Shaddai permeated the Hebrew mind, it became thoroughly colored with the Yahweh beliefs of the desert.

96:1.6 One of the dominant ideas of the religion of this era was the Egyptian concept of divine Providence, the teaching that material prosperity was a reward for serving El Shaddai.

96:1.7 4. El. Amid all this confusion of terminology and haziness of concept, many devout believers sincerely endeavored to worship all of these evolving ideas of divinity, and there grew up the practice of referring to this composite Deity as El. And this term included still other of the Bedouin nature gods.

96:1.8 5. Elohim. In Kish and Ur there long persisted Sumerian-Chaldean groups who taught a three-in-one God concept founded on the traditions of the days of Adam and Melchizedek. This doctrine was carried to Egypt, where this Trinity was worshiped under the name of Elohim, or in the singular as Eloah. The philosophic circles of Egypt and later Alexandrian teachers of Hebraic extraction taught this unity of pluralistic Gods, and many of Moses' advisers at the time of the exodus believed in this Trinity. But the concept of the trinitarian Elohim never became a real part of Hebrew theology until after they had come under the political influence of the Babylonians.

96:1.9 6. Sundry names. The Semites disliked to speak the name of their Deity, and they therefore resorted to numerous appellations from time to time, such as: The Spirit of God, The Lord, The Angel of the Lord, The Almighty, The Holy One, The Most High, Adonai, The Ancient of Days, The Lord God of Israel, The Creator of heaven and Earth, Kyrios, Jah, The Lord of Hosts, and The Father in Heaven.

96:1.10 Jehovah is a term which in recent times has been employed to designate the completed concept of Yahweh which finally evolved in the long Hebrews experience. But the name Jehovah did not come into use until fifteen hundred years after the times of Jesus." UB 1955
 

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Some scientific claims made in the revelation have since been validated although unpopular at the time. Some things have not.
As if enlightened 'celestial' beings wouldn't know already, or worse would/did lie. You REALLY do not think critically. :(
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The New Testament is contaminated by Old Testament thinking but I did read it without your permission;)
Oh brother. You REALLY do not know how to think critically through those. Though I do not hold with MAD theology, there are PLENTY of them on TOL that can explain this to you in a way that is simple, works, and addresses your concern without conflation of some odd book that even admits it lies to you when it says it has science that isn't accurate and will be rewritten in the future :Z

Then your snarky N.T. reading: I cannot do better than Jesus and His Apostles
 

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As if enlightened 'celestial' beings wouldn't know already, or worse would/did lie. You REALLY do not think critically. :(

Oh brother. You REALLY do not know how to think critically through those. Though I do not hold with MAD theology, there are PLENTY of them on TOL that can explain this to you in a way that is simple, works, and addresses your concern without conflation of some odd book that even admits it lies to you when it says it has science that isn't accurate and will be rewritten in the future :Z

Then your snarky N.T. reading: I cannot do better than Jesus and His Apostles
God has the cure for cancer and every other ailment yet doesn’t give it to us. The same policy applies to revelatory commissions.

In Christian theology God foresaw the fall of Lucifer, allowed it to happen and planned for his Son to be sent as a sacrificial lamb as a sin-debt payment so God could then forgive. I find UB explanation makes much more sense.

You abandoned critical thinking skills when wrestling with the claims of Biblical authors.
 
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God has the cure for cancer


and every other ailment yet doesn’t give it to us.

The only true cure is called being given a new body.

Also, the Tree of Life was supposed to correct issues that might show up due to mutations in genetic information, but taking that away was, objectively, a mercy.

The same policy applies to revelatory commissions.

God stopped revealing things with Paul.

In Christian theology God foresaw

That's called Arminianism.

the fall of Lucifer,

Was his own doing.

allowed it to happen

Again, Arminianism.

In Calvinism, God was the one who made Lucifer fall, and didn't just forsee it, but commanded it.

Which is why you can't just make broad statements like "in Christian theology... XYZ," because differing theologies say different things.

For Open Theists (like myself), God knew that His creation might break (itself), but the alternative was to make robots that couldn't love Him (for love must be freely given; you cannot love without the ability to hate.

and planned for his Son to be sent as a sacrificial lamb as a sin-debt payment

Kinsman-Redeemer.

so God could then forgive.

God cannot forgive someone who is unrepentant. He Himself teaches that.

I find UB explanation makes much more sense.

That's because you've drank the kool-aid.

You abandoned critical thinking skills

That's ironic...

when wrestling with the claims of Biblical authors.

Says the one who gave up completely and turned away from scripture...
 

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God has the cure for cancer and every other ailment yet doesn’t give it to us. The same policy applies to revelatory commissions.

In Christian theology God foresaw the fall of Lucifer, allowed it to happen and planned for his Son to be sent as a sacrificial lamb as a sin-debt payment so God could then forgive. I find UB explanation makes much more sense.

You abandoned critical thinking skills when wrestling with the claims of Biblical authors.
Critical and simpleton are two entirely different matters.
Says the one who gave up completely and turned away from scripture...
I prayed for you today, Caino.
 

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Critical and simpleton are two entirely different matters.

I prayed for you today, Caino.
Which is a good thing Lon, prayer is about changing the heart and life of the one who prays. You have a lot of animosity towards people who don't believe as you believe. The answer to your prayer may differ from your petition. ;)
 

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Which is a good thing Lon, prayer is about changing the heart and life of the one who prays. You have a lot of animosity towards people who don't believe as you believe.
You had that when you first started this thread, knowing full well how poorly it is, let alone how much of an affront it is to the Lord Jesus Christ.
You nor Sadler 'GET' to change the words of a God. Sorry. Fact. THAT is what your uncritical mind will not accept.
The answer to your prayer may differ from your petition. ;)
You in Hell? Not the object of my prayer. There are penalties for lies, even unintentional ones (if you really are this inept). I literally don't think much of your education or ability. Prayer, then, when a man will not listen to his betters.

Proverbs says to 'correct a fool lest he thinks himself wise' and then 'don't (I'd assume at a certain point) because he will despise you, as you have done. There is no animosity but in your own little head. I ACTUALLY have more care and concern for you, than you will ever have for me. Fact.
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You had that when you first started this thread, knowing full well how poorly it is, let alone how much of an affront it is to the Lord Jesus Christ.
You nor Sadler 'GET' to change the words of a God. Sorry. Fact. THAT is what your uncritical mind will not accept.

You in Hell? Not the object of my prayer. There are penalties for lies, even unintentional ones (if you really are this inept). I literally don't think much of your education or ability. Prayer, then, when a man will not listen to his betters.

Proverbs says to 'correct a fool lest he thinks himself wise' and then 'don't (I'd assume at a certain point) because he will despise you, as you have done. There is no animosity but in your own little head. I ACTUALLY have more care and concern for you, than you will ever have for me. Fact.
-Lon
Its only a threat to closed minded religious people who have been taught that one must have the right "belief" about the past, theoretical salvation.

Hell is a fiction created to scare people into church by charlatans. But I really do appreciate your concern for me and I believe its genuine.
 

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Matthew 10:28, Matthew 22:13

Prayers continue.
“The habitual violation of a taboo became a vice; primitive law made vice a crime; religion made it a sin. Among the early tribes the violation of a taboo was a combined crime and sin. Community calamity was always regarded as punishment for tribal sin. To those who believed that prosperity and righteousness went together, the apparent prosperity of the wicked occasioned so much worry that it was necessary to invent hells for the punishment of taboo violators; the numbers of these places of future punishment have varied from one to five.”


When one discovers the true loving Father and themselves as a son of God, they naturally want to get to know him better.

Frightful allegiance isn’t Love,
 

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. . . it was necessary to invent hells for the punishment of taboo violators; the numbers of these places of future punishment have varied from one to five.”

You missed it. Here it is again:

Matthew 10:28, Matthew 22:13

When one discovers the true loving Father and themselves as a son of God, they naturally want to get to know him better.

Frightful allegiance isn’t Love,

Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom...

Where have I heard that before... Oh, right.

Psalm 111:10; Proverbs 1:7; 9:10...
 

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You missed it. Here it is again:





Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom...

Where have I heard that before... Oh, right.

Psalm 111:10; Proverbs 1:7; 9:10...
Which is true, fear of the Lord was the beginning of wisdom.


THE “FEAR OF THE LORD”​

Philip by James Tissot

149:6.1 It was at Gamala, during the evening conference, that Philip said to Jesus: “Master, why is it that the Scriptures instruct us to `fear the Lord,' while you would have us look to the Father in heaven without fear? How are we to harmonize these teachings?” And Jesus replied to Philip, saying:

149:6.2 “My children, I am not surprised that you ask such questions. In the beginning it was only through fear that man could learn reverence, but I have come to reveal the Father's love so that you will be attracted to the worship of the Eternal by the drawing of a son's affectionate recognition and reciprocation of the Father's profound and perfect love. I would deliver you from the bondage of driving yourselves through slavish fear to the irksome service of a jealous and wrathful King-God. I would instruct you in the Father-son relationship of God and man so that you may be joyfully led into that sublime and supernal free worship of a loving, just, and merciful Father-God.

149:6.3 “The `fear of the Lord' has had different meanings in the successive ages, coming up from fear, through anguish and dread, to awe and reverence. And now from reverence I would lead you up, through recognition, realization, and appreciation, to love. When man recognizes only the works of God, he is led to fear the Supreme; but when man begins to understand and experience the personality and character of the living God, he is led increasingly to love such a good and perfect, universal and eternal Father. And it is just this changing of the relation of man to God that constitutes the mission of the Son of Man on earth.

149:6.4 “Intelligent children do not fear their father in order that they may receive good gifts from his hand; but having already received the abundance of good things bestowed by the dictates of the father's affection for his sons and daughters, these much loved children are led to love their father in responsive recognition and appreciation of such munificent beneficence. The goodness of God leads to repentance; the beneficence of God leads to service; the mercy of God leads to salvation; while the love of God leads to intelligent and freehearted worship.

149:6.5 “Your forebears feared God because he was mighty and mysterious. You shall adore him because he is magnificent in love, plenteous in mercy, and glorious in truth. The power of God engenders fear in the heart of man, but the nobility and righteousness of his personality beget reverence, love, and willing worship. A dutiful and affectionate son does not fear or dread even a mighty and noble father. I have come into the world to put love in the place of fear, joy in the place of sorrow, confidence in the place of dread, loving service and appreciative worship in the place of slavish bondage and meaningless ceremonies. But it is still true of those who sit in darkness that `the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.' But when the light has more fully come, the sons of God are led to praise the Infinite for what he is rather than to fear him for what he does.

149:6.6 “When children are young and unthinking, they must necessarily be admonished to honor their parents; but when they grow older and become somewhat more appreciative of the benefits of the parental ministry and protection, they are led up, through understanding respect and increasing affection, to that level of experience where they actually love their parents for what they are more than for what they have done. The father naturally loves his child, but the child must develop his love for the father from the fear of what the father can do, through awe, dread, dependence, and reverence, to the appreciative and affectionate regard of love.

149:6.7 “You have been taught that you should `fear God and keep his commandments, for that is the whole duty of man.' But I have come to give you a new and higher commandment. I would teach you to `love God and learn to do his will, for that is the highest privilege of the liberated sons of God.' Your fathers were taught to `fear God—the Almighty King.' I teach you, `Love God—the all-merciful Father.'

149:6.8 “In the kingdom of heaven, which I have come to declare, there is no high and mighty king; this kingdom is a divine family. The universally recognized and unreservedly worshiped center and head of this far-flung brotherhood of intelligent beings is my Father and your Father. I am his Son, and you are also his sons. Therefore it is eternally true that you and I are brethren in the heavenly estate, and all the more so since we have become brethren in the flesh of the earthly life. Cease, then, to fear God as a king or serve him as a master; learn to reverence him as the Creator; honor him as the Father of your spirit youth; love him as a merciful defender; and ultimately worship him as the loving and all-wise Father of your more mature spiritual realization and appreciation.

149:6.9 “Out of your wrong concepts of the Father in heaven grow your false ideas of humility and springs much of your hypocrisy. Man may be a worm of the dust by nature and origin, but when he becomes indwelt by my Father's spirit, that man becomes divine in his destiny. The bestowal spirit of my Father will surely return to the divine source and universe level of origin, and the human soul of mortal man which shall have become the reborn child of this indwelling spirit shall certainly ascend with the divine spirit to the very presence of the eternal Father.

149:6.10 “Humility, indeed, becomes mortal man who receives all these gifts from the Father in heaven, albeit there is a divine dignity attached to all such faith candidates for the eternal ascent of the heavenly kingdom. The meaningless and menial practices of an ostentatious and false humility are incompatible with the appreciation of the source of your salvation and the recognition of the destiny of your spirit-born souls. Humility before God is altogether appropriate in the depths of your hearts; meekness before men is commendable; but the hypocrisy of self-conscious and attention-craving humility is childish and unworthy of the enlightened sons of the kingdom.

149:6.11 “You do well to be meek before God and self-controlled before men, but let your meekness be of spiritual origin and not the self-deceptive display of a self-conscious sense of self- righteous superiority. The prophet spoke advisedly when he said, `Walk humbly with God,' for, while the Father in heaven is the Infinite and the Eternal, he also dwells `with him who is of a contrite mind and a humble spirit.' My Father disdains pride, loathes hypocrisy, and abhors iniquity. And it was to emphasize the value of sincerity and perfect trust in the loving support and faithful guidance of the heavenly Father that I have so often referred to the little child as illustrative of the attitude of mind and the response of spirit which are so essential to the entrance of mortal man into the spirit realities of the kingdom of heaven.

149:6.12 “Well did the Prophet Jeremiah describe many mortals when he said: 'You are near God in the mouth but far from him in the heart.' And have you not also read that direful warning of the prophet who said: 'The priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money. At the same time they profess piety and proclaim that the Lord is with them.' Have you not been well warned against those who 'speak peace to their neighbors when mischief is in their hearts,' those who 'flatter with the lips while the heart is given to double-dealing'? Of all the sorrows of a trusting man, none are so terrible as to be 'wounded in the house of a trusted friend.'”
*UB 1955
 

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Which is true, fear of the Lord was the beginning of wisdom.


THE “FEAR OF THE LORD”​


149:6.1 It was at Gamala, during the evening conference, that Philip said to Jesus: “Master, why is it that the Scriptures instruct us to `fear the Lord,' while you would have us look to the Father in heaven without fear? How are we to harmonize these teachings?” And Jesus replied to Philip, saying:

149:6.2 “My children, I am not surprised that you ask such questions. In the beginning it was only through fear that man could learn reverence, but I have come to reveal the Father's love so that you will be attracted to the worship of the Eternal by the drawing of a son's affectionate recognition and reciprocation of the Father's profound and perfect love. I would deliver you from the bondage of driving yourselves through slavish fear to the irksome service of a jealous and wrathful King-God. I would instruct you in the Father-son relationship of God and man so that you may be joyfully led into that sublime and supernal free worship of a loving, just, and merciful Father-God.

149:6.3 “The `fear of the Lord' has had different meanings in the successive ages, coming up from fear, through anguish and dread, to awe and reverence. And now from reverence I would lead you up, through recognition, realization, and appreciation, to love. When man recognizes only the works of God, he is led to fear the Supreme; but when man begins to understand and experience the personality and character of the living God, he is led increasingly to love such a good and perfect, universal and eternal Father. And it is just this changing of the relation of man to God that constitutes the mission of the Son of Man on earth.

149:6.4 “Intelligent children do not fear their father in order that they may receive good gifts from his hand; but having already received the abundance of good things bestowed by the dictates of the father's affection for his sons and daughters, these much loved children are led to love their father in responsive recognition and appreciation of such munificent beneficence. The goodness of God leads to repentance; the beneficence of God leads to service; the mercy of God leads to salvation; while the love of God leads to intelligent and freehearted worship.

149:6.5 “Your forebears feared God because he was mighty and mysterious. You shall adore him because he is magnificent in love, plenteous in mercy, and glorious in truth. The power of God engenders fear in the heart of man, but the nobility and righteousness of his personality beget reverence, love, and willing worship. A dutiful and affectionate son does not fear or dread even a mighty and noble father. I have come into the world to put love in the place of fear, joy in the place of sorrow, confidence in the place of dread, loving service and appreciative worship in the place of slavish bondage and meaningless ceremonies. But it is still true of those who sit in darkness that `the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.' But when the light has more fully come, the sons of God are led to praise the Infinite for what he is rather than to fear him for what he does.

149:6.6 “When children are young and unthinking, they must necessarily be admonished to honor their parents; but when they grow older and become somewhat more appreciative of the benefits of the parental ministry and protection, they are led up, through understanding respect and increasing affection, to that level of experience where they actually love their parents for what they are more than for what they have done. The father naturally loves his child, but the child must develop his love for the father from the fear of what the father can do, through awe, dread, dependence, and reverence, to the appreciative and affectionate regard of love.

149:6.7 “You have been taught that you should `fear God and keep his commandments, for that is the whole duty of man.' But I have come to give you a new and higher commandment. I would teach you to `love God and learn to do his will, for that is the highest privilege of the liberated sons of God.' Your fathers were taught to `fear God—the Almighty King.' I teach you, `Love God—the all-merciful Father.'

149:6.8 “In the kingdom of heaven, which I have come to declare, there is no high and mighty king; this kingdom is a divine family. The universally recognized and unreservedly worshiped center and head of this far-flung brotherhood of intelligent beings is my Father and your Father. I am his Son, and you are also his sons. Therefore it is eternally true that you and I are brethren in the heavenly estate, and all the more so since we have become brethren in the flesh of the earthly life. Cease, then, to fear God as a king or serve him as a master; learn to reverence him as the Creator; honor him as the Father of your spirit youth; love him as a merciful defender; and ultimately worship him as the loving and all-wise Father of your more mature spiritual realization and appreciation.

149:6.9 “Out of your wrong concepts of the Father in heaven grow your false ideas of humility and springs much of your hypocrisy. Man may be a worm of the dust by nature and origin, but when he becomes indwelt by my Father's spirit, that man becomes divine in his destiny. The bestowal spirit of my Father will surely return to the divine source and universe level of origin, and the human soul of mortal man which shall have become the reborn child of this indwelling spirit shall certainly ascend with the divine spirit to the very presence of the eternal Father.

149:6.10 “Humility, indeed, becomes mortal man who receives all these gifts from the Father in heaven, albeit there is a divine dignity attached to all such faith candidates for the eternal ascent of the heavenly kingdom. The meaningless and menial practices of an ostentatious and false humility are incompatible with the appreciation of the source of your salvation and the recognition of the destiny of your spirit-born souls. Humility before God is altogether appropriate in the depths of your hearts; meekness before men is commendable; but the hypocrisy of self-conscious and attention-craving humility is childish and unworthy of the enlightened sons of the kingdom.

149:6.11 “You do well to be meek before God and self-controlled before men, but let your meekness be of spiritual origin and not the self-deceptive display of a self-conscious sense of self- righteous superiority. The prophet spoke advisedly when he said, `Walk humbly with God,' for, while the Father in heaven is the Infinite and the Eternal, he also dwells `with him who is of a contrite mind and a humble spirit.' My Father disdains pride, loathes hypocrisy, and abhors iniquity. And it was to emphasize the value of sincerity and perfect trust in the loving support and faithful guidance of the heavenly Father that I have so often referred to the little child as illustrative of the attitude of mind and the response of spirit which are so essential to the entrance of mortal man into the spirit realities of the kingdom of heaven.

149:6.12 “Well did the Prophet Jeremiah describe many mortals when he said: 'You are near God in the mouth but far from him in the heart.' And have you not also read that direful warning of the prophet who said: 'The priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money. At the same time they profess piety and proclaim that the Lord is with them.' Have you not been well warned against those who 'speak peace to their neighbors when mischief is in their hearts,' those who 'flatter with the lips while the heart is given to double-dealing'? Of all the sorrows of a trusting man, none are so terrible as to be 'wounded in the house of a trusted friend.'”
*UB 1955
Stop quoting your comic book... nobody here cares what your "super heroes" are saying.

P.S. This is the most useless thread on TOL (well... at least when you post to it).
 
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