Supposedly championing the 'plain meaning' of the text, 2P2P only means this if it supports 2P2P. So they have a few fav NT texts used as sound bytes and of course their fav OT texts which somehow are seldom used by the NT.
Act 2, 13, 15's plain meaning is battle to them. They must overthrow it because it destroys 2P2P. Imagine that: the very thing that makes the 1st Christian sermon climax is shot down and pulverized.
Acts 26 is a different matter because if there was ever a place where the future land promise of Israel would show, it would be there. But it does not. And Paul says 'we (christians) didn't go beyond anything the prophets said when preaching the death and resurrection of Christ' meaning, if there had been a reason to mention the land promise, they would have, but the Gospel was the superlative and necessary message to Israel, nothing else.
Act 2, 13, 15's plain meaning is battle to them. They must overthrow it because it destroys 2P2P. Imagine that: the very thing that makes the 1st Christian sermon climax is shot down and pulverized.
There we see that the Apostles were with the Lord Jesus for forty days while He tutored them on the things concerning the kingdom. Then after learning about the kingdom from the King Himself they knew that the kingdom would be restored to Israel only they didn't know when it would happen:
"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6).
if they were wrong for thinking that the kingdom was going to be restored to Israel He would have corrected them, especially since He was about to send them out to preach the "gospel of the kingdom." But he did no such thing but only told them that they were not to know when it would happen:
"And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power" (Acts 1:7).
If the kingdom was never going to be restored to Israel then it would make absolutely no sense for the Lord Jesus to say anything about its timing.
But of course you think that you know more about the kingdom than did the Apostles themselves. And if you would have been there you probably would have corrected the Lord for saying anything at all about the time when it was going to happen.
There we see that the Apostles were with the Lord Jesus for forty days while He tutored them on the things concerning the kingdom. Then after learning about the kingdom from the King Himself they knew that the kingdom would be restored to Israel only they didn't know when it would happen:
"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6).
if they were wrong for thinking that the kingdom was going to be restored to Israel He would have corrected them, especially since He was about to send them out to preach the "gospel of the kingdom." But he did no such thing but only told them that they were not to know when it would happen:
"And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power" (Acts 1:7).
If the kingdom was never going to be restored to Israel then it would make absolutely no sense for the Lord Jesus to say anything about its timing.
But of course you think that you know more about the kingdom than did the Apostles themselves. And if you would have been there you probably would have corrected the Lord for saying anything at all about the time when it was going to happen.
Because it was THEIR mistake, not something God was saying or doing through their preaching. They were REBUKED for it and told what kind of power the kingdom was going to have.
If you are going to proceed that way, you have 20x more questions to answer: why isn't the land/kingdom of Israel as such (your conception) ever mentioned again?
The fact is that it was mentioned--the power (the administrative enforcement or enactment) of it WAS explained. That is what you look past because you are drugged by 2P2P. The power was to proclaim. The proclamation of Christ as Lord and Messiah stopped everything in Israel and created the friction.
2nd, Christ is preached enthroned in his kingdom and David's throne in Acts 2. David saw the resurrection of Christ and realized that was it--that was how the thing was fulfilled.
So as usual, 2P2P has you off to a miserable start, looking for the wrong answers and forcing them into the text.
Indeed. They had every right to ask about an earthly kingdom. They believed the prophets and nothing that the LORD had taught them contradicted an earthly kingdom.
"It's none of your business, but you will recieve power..." That is the rebuke. It worked. It stopped them competely in those tracks. They never thought of the land promise again. I think it is the word power that did, because that is part of the equipment of a kingdom. When Pentecost happened it was clear from that point on.
why anyway do you people spent your time on what they were not supposed to know?
Because it was THEIR mistake, not something God was saying or doing through their preaching. They were REBUKED for it and told what kind of power the kingdom was going to have.
He never rebuked them. He only told them they were not to know the time when the kingdom would be restored to Israel. Later Peter told those belonging to the nation of Israel that if they would repent then the Lord Jesus would be sent back so they Jews could enjoy the times of refreshing which will come from His presence:
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, that the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you" (Acts 3:19-20).
The times of refreshing which will come upon the Jews when the Lord Jesus returns will be the kingdom which the prophets from Samuel and the prophets which followed had foretold (Acts 3:24).
Here we see what will happen when He returns to the earth:
"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand" (Lk.21:27-31).
"It's none of your business, but you will recieve power..." That is the rebuke. It worked. It stopped them competely in those tracks. They never thought of the land promise again. I think it is the word power that did, because that is part of the equipment of a kingdom. When Pentecost happened it was clear from that point on.
why anyway do you people spent your time on what they were not supposed to know?
So...the Lord Jesus spent 40 days with His disciples after His resurrection teaching them things concerning the Kingdom of Heaven and you are saying that the subject of the Kingdom being restored to Israel according to prophecy never came up until the disciples, out of the blue, suddenly asked Him the question, "When?"
Peter in Acts 3 clearly anticipates that with Israel's repentance and the return of Christ to earth that the remainder of all that the prophet's said concerning Messiah would come to pass.
It's plain.
You are willfully blind, as well as stupid for being so.
"It's none of your business, but you will recieve power..." That is the rebuke. It worked. It stopped them competely in those tracks. They never thought of the land promise again. I think it is the word power that did, because that is part of the equipment of a kingdom. When Pentecost happened it was clear from that point on.
why anyway do you people spent your time on what they were not supposed to know?
So...the Lord Jesus spent 40 days with His disciples after His resurrection teaching them things concerning the Kingdom of Heaven and you are saying that the subject of the Kingdom being restored to Israel according to prophecy never came up until the disciples, out of the blue, suddenly asked Him the question, "When?"
Peter in Acts 3 clearly anticipates that with Israel's repentance and the return of Christ to earth that the remainder of all that the prophet's said concerning Messiah would come to pass.
It's plain.
You are willfully blind, as well as stupid for being so.
That return/restoration was not of Judaism again. It was the restoration of all things, everything. That's the willful ignorance you are expressing. It was the NHNE. The NHNE was expected right after the destruction of Jerusalem, unless God desired to extend the mission to the nations, which He did.
This is why your Jewish-gospel champion Peter says nothing Judaistic about the NHNE or the future in 2 Peter 3.
The disciples were human, and Judaism as such is human, and yes, they made the mistake one more time of thinking it was that kind of kingdom. They then learned it was not brick and mortar, and had a 'power' that was entirely different and directly from God.
Everything is there for you to see, if you would stop serving the parasitic system called 2P2P and let the NT speak for itself.
That return/restoration was not of Judaism again. It was the restoration of all things, everything. That's the willful ignorance you are expressing. It was the NHNE. The NHNE was expected right after the destruction of Jerusalem, unless God desired to extend the mission to the nations, which He did.
This is why your Jewish-gospel champion Peter says nothing Judaistic about the NHNE or the future in 2 Peter 3.
The disciples were human, and Judaism as such is human, and yes, they made the mistake one more time of thinking it was that kind of kingdom. They then learned it was not brick and mortar, and had a 'power' that was entirely different and directly from God.
Everything is there for you to see, if you would stop serving the parasitic system called 2P2P and let the NT speak for itself.
Indeed. They had every right to ask about an earthly kingdom. They believed the prophets and nothing that the LORD had taught them contradicted an earthly kingdom.
"It's none of your business, but you will recieve power..." That is the rebuke. It worked. It stopped them competely in those tracks. They never thought of the land promise again. I think it is the word power that did, because that is part of the equipment of a kingdom. When Pentecost happened it was clear from that point on.
why anyway do you people spent your time on what they were not supposed to know?
"It's none of your business, but you will recieve power..." That is the rebuke. It worked. It stopped them competely in those tracks. They never thought of the land promise again. I think it is the word power that did, because that is part of the equipment of a kingdom. When Pentecost happened it was clear from that point on.
why anyway do you people spent your time on what they were not supposed to know?
They were sure of the restoration because they trusted in the word of God.
They were not asking the Lord IF the promised restoration was going to happen.
Their question to the Lord was not whether it WOULD happen, but WHEN.
The answer they received:
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
The timing of WHEN is known by the Father.
If there was no WHEN for it to happen, then the Father wouldn't have known a WHEN.
But the Father does know WHEN, therefore it will happen.
They were sure of the restoration because they trusted in the word of God.
They were not asking the Lord IF the promised restoration was going to happen.
Their question to the Lord was not whether it WOULD happen, but WHEN.
The answer they received:
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
The timing of WHEN is known by the Father.
If there was no WHEN for it to happen, then the Father wouldn't have known a WHEN.
But the Father does know WHEN, therefore it will happen.
Yep - according to Luke 24; they were bursting at the seems in their excitement of His having confirmed what they had first confessed of Him at the end of John 1.
Luke 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. 24:21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Again He did not correct their understanding of Who He was and of what He had come to do as to Israel.
What was that?
John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
While in this here that follows...
Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Verse 7 is basically relating that various things in Matthew thru John that He had spoken to them of - like this here, from...
John 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
Only the Father knows the times and the seasons of its' coming power, or reign.
Note - for one could do this all night and all day!
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Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 12:36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 12:38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 12:41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 12:42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 12:43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 12:44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 12:45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
