ECT Who is the remnant of the woman's seed?

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In the book of Revelation 12:17 we read, “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
A number of symbols are used here. We will let the Bible define them for us since that is the only consistent course. Concerning the dragon, we read, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan... " Revelation 20:2. So Satan is the dragon. The woman is the church for God says, "I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman." Jeremiah 6:2. Satan is not making war on the whole church for be counts them as his own. He is only warring against the remnant of her seed. This is because the church is in apostasy. This was foretold in the prophecy of Paul (2Thess 2:3), "... that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first... " The great falling away resulted in the formation of the Catholic church. The churches of Protestantism are her daughters.
The remnant of the church is distinguished in doing two things, one is in keeping the commandments of God and the other is in bearing the testimony of Jesus. The Bible in Revelation 19:10 says, "... the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." There is only one church that meets these qualifications. She keeps the commandments of God, the Sabbath and all, and also recognizes the manifestation of the gift of prophecy within her. This church is the Seventh-Day Adventist church. This makes her 'the remnant of her seed.'
 
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"The remnant of the church is distinguished in doing two things, one is in keeping the commandments of God and the other is in bearing the testimony of Jesus. The Bible in Revelation 19:10 says, "... the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." There is only one church that meets these qualifications. She keeps the commandments of God, the Sabbath and all, and also recognizes the manifestation of the gift of prophecy within her. This church is the Seventh-Day Adventist church. This makes her 'the remnant of her seed."

There is no remnant of the Church in scripture, only the remnant of Israel. Of course, the dispensationalists and some other Church people will say the remnant of Israel is the remnant of Old Covenant Israel, which is seen in Romans 11: 1-5. But Revelation 12: 17 is about the remnant of Israel in the New Covenant. It is the remnant of redeemed Israel in Luke 1: 68. And Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28 say there is no difference between those born again of the physical Jewish bloodline and non-Jewish blood lines, they are one in Christ. Romans 2: 28-29 supports Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28.
 
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northwye said:
"The remnant of the church is distinguished in doing two things, one is in keeping the commandments of God and the other is in bearing the testimony of Jesus. The Bible in Revelation 19:10 says, "... the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." There is only one church that meets these qualifications. She keeps the commandments of God, the Sabbath and all, and also recognizes the manifestation of the gift of prophecy within her. This church is the Seventh-Day Adventist church. This makes her 'the remnant of her seed."

There is no remnant of the Church in scripture, only the remnant of Israel. Of course, the dispensationalists and some other Church people will say the remnant of Israel is the remnant of Old Covenant Israel, which is seen in Romans 11: 1-5. But Revelation 12: 17 is about the remnant of Israel in the New Covenant. It is the remnant of redeemed Israel in Luke 1: 68. And Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28 say there is no difference between those born again of the physical Jewish bloodline and non-Jewish blood lines, they are one in Christ. Romans 2: 28-29 supports Romans 10: 12 and Galatians 3: 28.
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During the Jewish dispensation, the church was Israel. Stephen referred to this when he spoke of Moses, "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us" - Acts 7:38. He called Israel the church.
The Jewish dispensation ended with the rejection and crucifixion of Christ. Jesus said as much to them, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate," Matthew 23:38. Since then all believers are reckoned Israel. "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." "And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise" - Galatians 3:7,29. Paul's epistle to the Romans (2:28,29) bears the same testimony, "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly... But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly..."
 
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