So you admit that the descendants of the 10 lost tribes were indistinguishable from pagan Gentiles in the first century.
You didn't answer the question about the verse.
Why don't you answer the question?
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So you admit that the descendants of the 10 lost tribes were indistinguishable from pagan Gentiles in the first century.
You didn't answer the question about the verse.
Why don't you answer the question?
(1 Cor 15:50) I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,
musterion
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Bible truths being buried for centuries under layers of Romish and protestant tradition =\= God "hiding" it.
Has salvation by grace through faith alone in Christ alone been consistently preached since Paul? Absolutely not. It isnt today. Does that mean "God hid it"? No.
Same principle here.
The verses following vs 50 indicate that Paul is not referring to just any flesh, he is referring to corruptible flesh and that that corrupted flesh will be changed[allasso-altered] and take on a new quality of incorruption and immortality.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
This remains a mystery to those who insist on imposing a foreign Platonic Spiritualism on the text.
Such brilliance, and amazing debating skills, Craigie....Please teach us.....please?
Loser. Even you know it.
The sap spams that "trump card" as another one of his "Hail Mary's," and thinks, "That'll do it."
Listen up, loser:
Genesis 2:23 KJV
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
No blood-are you with me, punk?(rhetorical q). Flesh and bones.
Luke 24:39 KJV
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
No blood-are you with me, punk?(rhetorical q). Flesh and bones.
Ephesians 5:30 KJV
For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
No blood-are you with me, punk?(rhetorical q). Flesh and bones.
That is the point of 1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV-
flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit ....
The Lord Jesus Christ, as a man, is flesh and bone today, in His resurrected, glorified body. Thus, the OT saints, in resurrected bodies, of flesh and bone, will inherit the kingdom of heaven upon the earth, and members of the body of Christ, in "the redemption of the body," will inherit the "heavenly places" in Christ Jesus, in like bodies.
You santanically spin this, in deceit, as to "argue" against the physical, by definition resurrection, and redemption of the body.
Perverter of the gospel of Christ.
Deceiver.
Romans 8:23 KJV
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Philippians 3:21 KJV
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Craigie the clown: The above verses should not be in the bible....Darby...
Con "man."
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Out of curiosity... Are you aware of the role of Jesuit Francisco Ribera in introducing modern Futurism during the Counter-Reformation in 1590, which is the foundation for all Dispensationalism?
What's your take on that?
No one ever taught what Darby invented until Darby invented it.
Now your changing the argument from "ever" to "consistently".
Salvation by grace through faith alone has always been taught since Paul taught it.
No one ever taught what Darby invented in 1830.
God didn't hide it, because it's a false doctrine that isn't what the Word of God teaches.
What Darby invented is no different than what the other contemporaries of Darby invented (i.e. Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Ellen White)
Mormonism, JW's, and Seventh Day Adventism weren't hidden by God either. Like Dispensationalism, they were invented in the mid-1800's during the "age of the cults".
The above is Exhibit A of the cult-like rubbish that followers of Darby believe.
It's so nice of you Darby followers to allow the Jews to inherit the earth in a lesser type body, while you "Body believers" get the superior bodes and inherit Heaven.
Next time you should include the part where you "Body believers" rule over the Jews for exactly 1,000 years here on earth before going back up the Heaven.
Like I said, no one taught this rubbish before Darby invented it.
SaulToPaul 2
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I was justified by the faith of Christ. Without the faith of Christ, my faith in Christ is worthless.
SaulToPaul 2
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When are you coming to Charlotte? We'll show up at CRI and give Hank Nelson Hanegraeff the Big Freeze.
SaulToPaul 2
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Perhaps according to wiki and planet preterist, but according to the Holy Bible there were twelve tribes intact in the first century.
I know which I shall believe.
SaulToPaul 2
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That's not what it says.
Who was the Son given to?
Did the LORD lie when he said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel? Why wasn't he sent to Jews? He came unto his own.
SaulToPaul 2
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So far we've determined that if anyone, a Gentile or an Israelite, was circumcised and believed in the one true God they could be called a Jew.
Is this not correct?
SaulToPaul 2
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Yes, everyone knows that the Millenium was from 1960-65 in Mayberry, NC.
SaulToPaul 2
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Are there celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies, according to scripture?
Is God allowed to save anyone he wants and give them any type of body he wants, for his purposes?
Or does he have to run it by Tet?
SaulToPaul 2
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Twelve tribes existed and showed up at Pentecost in Acts 2, showing that they believed in the one true God, and could be called Jews
Because God never divorced the Jews (the House of Judah)
God did divorce the House of Israel
You completely ignore the fact that Israel split into two houses, and that the Israelites in the House of Israel were NEVER Jews.
You have to make the Israelites from the House of Israel Jews so your Dispensationalism works out. That's why you purposely ignore the truth.
SaulToPaul 2
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But, he came unto his own (the Jews). The Father sent him, and the Son sent them.
True?
But he was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.