Trump Harris debate

[ok doser]

Not going to try and recount it in real time, probably come back later and hit the high points, do a summary

How to Watch the 'Harris-Trump ABC News Presidential Debate' LIVE Tuesday | ABC Updates

Watch the 2024 election presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump Tuesday, Sept. 10 on ABC, ABC News Live, Disney+ & Hulu.

abc.com

 

[ok doser]

Another link that's going to carry it live. I'm on the road and hope to be stopped before it starts but can't be listening to it while I'm driving

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[ok doser]

Another link that's going to carry it live. I'm on the road and hope to be stopped before it starts but can't be listening to it while I'm driving

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Lots of deer carcasses on the road these past couple weeks and other critters like porky's and skunks. Almost hit an escaped cow earlier tonight and there's been a black bear sighting in the area in the past few days. And I tell people I live in New York

 

[ok doser]

Quit watching turned on the radio. He's allowing her to get under his skin. He needs to hammer her on her record instead of letting her suck him into responding to her silly nonsense.

He seems too defensive.

 

[ok doser]

She's baiting him over and over and over.

He must stop rising to the bait

 

[ok doser]

Trump just used her line on her. Classic!

 

[ok doser]

Trump needs to direct his comments to the moderators. Not Harris

 

[ok doser]

She's repeating Biden's lie about Charlottesville. She is modified it a little bit. Hopefully Trump won't rise to the bait

 

[ok doser]

Lying about the bloodbath as well. Again she's trying to bait him

 

[ok doser]

First commercial break. Harris is lying repeatedly baldly obviously. It occurred to me recently that it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if she's caught in her lies by Trump or Trump supporters. She's not talking to them. She's talking to the sheeple. She's talking to the cult members of the left wing. And they don't care if she's lying

 

[7djengo7]

First commercial break. Harris is lying repeatedly baldly obviously. It occurred to me recently that it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if she's caught in her lies by Trump or Trump supporters. She's not talking to them. She's talking to the sheeple. She's talking to the cult members of the left wing. And they don't care if she's lying

Kamala: "Some very fine people on both sides."

 

[ok doser]

Thank goodness closing arguments coming up. So far I don't think either of them have won

 

[ok doser]

Harris finished whiny

Trump finished strong

 

[Ps82]

I have to agree with what commentators are saying because I watched. The moderators did fact check him not her. Her questions were phrased in a way to foster a "sweet" response. Trump spent time defending himself ... when she basically just feed milk to children/her voters.

 

[Ps82]

She was trying to influence voters, who want to be mothered, that her desire is to mother them. She is not the leader needed over a powerful nation of people who love their freedoms.

 

[ok doser]

The moderators dismissed as baseless Trump's claims that Haitian immigrants in Springfield Ohio have been eating ducks and geese and cats and dogs. I see in a quick look that all across the left wing media sphere (aka propagandists) they are repeating that this is a racist baseless story.

Apparently they're lying. What a surprise.

LISTEN As Man in Springfield, OH Calls Police Dispatcher About 4 Haitians Carrying Geese

redstate.com

 

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[ok doser]

By the normal rules of debate Harris lost. She lied constantly, she engaged in ad hominins constantly, she avoided answering specific questions asked her by the obviously biased moderators.

But by the rules currently in effect she won.

Harris won this debate.

She achieved the goals that she set out to achieve. And she prevented Trump from achieving the goals that he had set out to achieve. She needled him she goaded him she triggered him into responding to her instead of focusing like a laser on her flaws. She knew she couldn't run on her record and so her goal was to prevent Trump from attacking her record.

He should have brushed aside her attempts to distract him instead of responding to them. He should have remained focused like a laser on immigration, crime, inflation, global instability. Furthermore he should have refused to get sucked into any discussion about abortion. He should have stated his position and then pivoted to immigration crime inflation global instability.

 

[ok doser]

Ruh roh!

 

[ok doser]

It occurred to me that Harris' performance yesterday was not intended to sway any of the Republican faithful. That's unsurprising. And it wasn't intended to sway any of the undecideds. That is surprising. It was tailored to the Democrat party faithful, which means they're worried about the enthusiasm level. I believe that they're afraid that Democrat turnout will be at record lows. And they absolutely need a close race in order to hide the cheating.