the seven heads

[chrysostom]

the seven heads

the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the Roman Empire

Julio-Claudian dynasty 68
Flavian dynasty 96
Adoptive and Antonine Emperors 192
House of Severus 235
Tetrarchy and the House of Constantine 364
House of Valentinian 455
Family of Leo I the Great 476

many have been counting the kings

not many understand that there were seven dynasties
but
the historians are the ones who determined this when they came up with the Byzantine Empire to separate the eastern Roman empire from the western one

isaac newton agrees they are dynasties

back to
the apocalypse

 

[faramir77]

Sounds like Jesuit Popery to me.

The "Holy Roman Empire" was neither Holy nor Roman.

Your Pal,
St. Faramir the Devine

 

[chrysostom]

Sounds like Jesuit Popery to me.

The "Holy Roman Empire" was neither Holy nor Roman.

Your Pal,
St. Faramir the Devine

we are not talking about the Holy Roman Empire

 

[jerzy]

the seven heads

the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the Roman Empire

Julio-Claudian dynasty 68
Flavian dynasty 96
Adoptive and Antonine Emperors 192
House of Severus 235
Tetrarchy and the House of Constantine 364
House of Valentinian 455
Family of Leo I the Great 476

many have been counting the kings

not many understand that there were seven dynasties
but
the historians are the ones who determined this when they came up with the Byzantine Empire to separate the eastern Roman empire from the western one

Pity but there were 10 horns and no heads if you are trying to explain Da 7 away.

 

[chrysostom]

Pity but there were 10 horns and no heads if you are trying to explain Da 7 away.

the ten horns come later
and
they are the ten Islamic dynasties

 

[jerzy]

the ten horns come later
and
they are the ten Islamic dynasties

Ten Islamic dynasties of the fourth beast of Da 7.

Long leap, Chrys.

 

[chrysostom]

Ten Islamic dynasties of the fourth beast of Da 7.

Long leap, Chrys.

how is the fourth beast different from all the others?
if
not Islam

 

[jerzy]

how is the fourth beast different from all the others?
if
not Islam

Check Da 2.

 

[chrysostom]

Check Da 2.

can you help me understand that chapter?

 

[jerzy]

can you help me understand that chapter?

Da 2?

 

[chrysostom]

Da 2?

yes

 

[jerzy]

yes

Just read it. :wave:

 

[chrysostom]

the seven heads

the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the Roman Empire

Julio-Claudian dynasty 68
Flavian dynasty 96
Adoptive and Antonine Emperors 192
House of Severus 235
Tetrarchy and the House of Constantine 364
House of Valentinian 455
Family of Leo I the Great 476

many have been counting the kings

not many understand that there were seven dynasties
but
the historians are the ones who determined this when they came up with the Byzantine Empire to separate the eastern Roman empire from the western one

back to
the apocalypse

many have tried counting kings
with very little success
so
it is time to count dynasties
and
see if that works

 

[chrysostom]

lots of emperors
but
only seven dynasties

List of Roman emperors

 

[chrysostom]

so why seven dynasties?

they represent the first beast that was mortally wounded
paganism of the western roman empire was the first beast

when constantine moved the capital to constantinople
and
changed it to a christian empire that would last 1000 years

paganism was mortally wounded

 

[chrysostom]

the seven heads

the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the Roman Empire

Julio-Claudian dynasty 68
Flavian dynasty 96
Adoptive and Antonine Emperors 192
House of Severus 235
Tetrarchy and the House of Constantine 364
House of Valentinian 455
Family of Leo I the Great 476

many have been counting the kings

not many understand that there were seven dynasties
but
the historians are the ones who determined this when they came up with the Byzantine Empire to separate the eastern Roman empire from the western one

back to
the apocalypse

the key here is

the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed 13:12

instead of empires or kingdoms
we should be looking at religions as the beasts
it was the religion of the roman empire that was the real problem
paganism
it was mortally wounded st the beginning of the byzantine empire
but
it was soon replaced by islam
the black stone is at the kaaba, a sacred shrine of muslims, which was originally a pagan shrine

 

[chrysostom]

Revelation 17:7 (KJV)

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

the key here is the word

mystery

everyone knew rome had seven hills

it was not a mystery

 

[chrysostom]

five have fallen
one is
and
one is yet to come

at that time chyrsostom was in ephesus replacing seven bishops

 

[chrysostom]

five have fallen
one is
and
one is yet to come

at that time chyrsostom was in ephesus replacing seven bishops

it was the end of the fourth century
and
the bishop of ephesus had sold the bishoporic to six other churches in the area
so
john was asked to replace all seven of the corrupted bishops

it took a few months to do it
did he visit patmos?
did he find a copy of the apocalypse?
did he edit it?

 

[jerzy]

it was the end of the fourth century
and
the bishop of ephesus had sold the bishoporic to six other churches in the area
so
john was asked to replace all seven of the corrupted bishops

it took a few months to do it
did he visit patmos?
did he find a copy of the apocalypse?
did he edit it?

You are trying to pervert the clear God’s word of Da 2, Da 7 and the barbaric history of your organisation.

You don't want to know what happened to your "Holy and Infallible" in 1798, do you chrysostom?