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ONLY GUARANTEE (HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES) (JUSTIFICATION)
Deut 13:1-3 OLD TESTAMENT
1 "If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
2 "and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, 'Let us go after other gods'-- which you have not known--' and let us serve them,'
3 "you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

II Th 2:9-11 NEW TESTAMENT
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
1 Tim 6:20-21
20 O Timothy! Guard what was committed to your trust, avoiding the profane and idle babble and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge--
21 by professing it some have strayed concerning the faith. Grace be with you. Amen.
2 Cor 1:21-22
21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God,
22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Eph 1:13-16
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,
16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers:
John 5:37
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
Matt 5:45
45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
John 14:24-26
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 5:4-5
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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xxx There is ONLY one guaranteed message from God for today, the Holy Spirit and He only quotes verses. And Christ came to make a way that we can have our own Holy Spirit to teach us. And the new testament is the authority of Jesus Christ. We dont even keep the old testament or those who say thus sayest the Lord. We submit to the new testament Holy Spirit that only quotes verses from the new testament. We live and abide in the doctrine of Christ.

II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
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xxx And anyone who knows the Holy Spirit on a personal basis, would want to prove the Holy Spirit was leading them by showing the verses that the Holy Spirit motivated them with to speak. We as born again christians knows the importance of proving the Holy Spirit is leading us. There is only one guarantee in the whole bible. Walking after the Holy Spirit that only quotes verses.
psycologist claim there is no abosolutes in the american language. Its obvious. But there is an absolute from the Holy Spirit. He is our guarantee from God.
 

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Rom 12:2
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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1 Cor 2:10
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
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1Thes 5:21
21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
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2 Cor 13:5-6
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.
6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
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Gal 1:6-12
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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I Jn 4:4-13
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
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Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 

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Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

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That is good that you are finally turning to scripture. Do you know what confess means??
It means to agree fully with all that Jesus said. Like even think beyond what is written. And don't add one thing to the verses or take one thing away from the verses. And trinity ISNT IN THE VERSES.

[1Co 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

[Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
 

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Squeaky, The trinity is mentioned in scripture:

Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
 

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Squeaky, The trinity is mentioned in scripture:

Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

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lol That doesn't say anything about the trinity. That says there is a Father and there is a Son and there is a Holy Spirit.
And Jesus says only one of them is God.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

And Paul says only one of them is God. I really don't understand why you Trinitarians call Jesus a liar, and Paul a liar.

[1Co 8:6
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].
 

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lol That doesn't say anything about the trinity. That says there is a Father and there is a Son and there is a Holy Spirit.
And Jesus says only one of them is God.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

And Paul says only one of them is God. I really don't understand why you Trinitarians call Jesus a liar, and Paul a liar.

[1Co 8:6
6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].

Notice Name is singular not plural.
 

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Notice Name is singular not plural.

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The only three in one god in the bible is the dragon, devil, satan. Satan is using the trinity doctrine to mock God.

[Rev 20:2
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is [the] Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

[2Th 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
 

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The only three in one god in the bible is the dragon, devil, satan. Satan is using the trinity doctrine to mock God.

[Rev 20:2
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is [the] Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

[2Th 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

That is the unholy trinity which is a counterfeit of the Holy trinity.
 

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And you are wrong.

Matthew 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

Again, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Let's leave it this way. I'll serve my Trinity, you serve yours.
 

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And you are wrong.

Matthew 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

Again, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Let's leave it this way. I'll serve my Trinity, you serve yours.

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lol You keep proving me right. Three different Spirits in three different places all at the same time.

And only one of them was God.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

If Jesus was God He couldn't leave Himself.

[Mat 27:46
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"

[Jhn 8:54
54 Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.
 

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lol You keep proving me right. Three different Spirits in three different places all at the same time.

And only one of them was God.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

If Jesus was God He couldn't leave Himself.

[Mat 27:46
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"

[Jhn 8:54
54 Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.

Nope, Three persons, same place (the baptism of Jesus) at the same time.
 

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Nope, Three persons, same place (the baptism of Jesus) at the same time.

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lolol Your really struggling to try to make them the same. It doesn't work. One Spirit in heaven, another Man on earth, and the Holy Spirit passing between them. Three different places all at the same time.


Matthew 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
 

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lolol Your really struggling to try to make them the same. It doesn't work. One Spirit in heaven, another Man on earth, and the Holy Spirit passing between them. Three different places all at the same time.


Matthew 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

You are confused Squeaky! What is the event. Let me help you. It is the baptism of Christ and all three: Father, Son and Holy Spirit are present.
 

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You are confused Squeaky! What is the event. Let me help you. It is the baptism of Christ and all three: Father, Son and Holy Spirit are present.

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lol They are all in different places at the same time. That proves their not all one. And Jesus said the Father is the only true God. Why are you trying to make Jesus out to be a liar?

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
 

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lol They are all in different places at the same time. That proves their not all one. And Jesus said the Father is the only true God. Why are you trying to make Jesus out to be a liar?

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

I feel sorry for you Squeaky for you are unable to rightly divide the word of truth
 

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If Jesus is not God then why does it matter? According to your 'god' Jesus is not God so why on earth would you place Jesus words as more IMPORTANT THAN the Father or the Holy Spirit? If the Holy Spirit is not God then why on earth are all your posts about "the importance of proving you have the Holy Spirit in you"? if the Holy Spirit is not God then having the Holy Spirit dwell inside you would be like letting another spirit other than God dwell inside you and why would you want that!? That is what is happening to you and it's making it difficult to see the Truth. Your talking about all these spirits dwelling inside you and the devil on one shoulder and guardian angel on the other telling you what to do and think. Life must be so confusing for you and it really really complicates the beauty of the Gospel. If the Father is the only God then you should definately only listen to him and not have these other spirits dwelling in you. You want to prove prove prove that the Holy Spirit is dwelling in you but if that spirit is not God then why would you listen to it and have it inside you!?

The TRINITY is not a word mentioned in the Bible but it does not mean that there are numerous situations and conversations and words from Jesus and all the witnesses who attest to the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit being the triune God. The fact that Jesus came to dwell in flesh is a huge mystery and we will never be able to comprehend how the invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent God was able to dwell on earth with us but we are not God and we cannot understand those things fully that are wholly other than us and our finite minds.

But the Holy Spirit is all over the Old Testament along with Jesus and the Father and were the Alpha and Omega - beginning and end - existed eternally before this world and will exist for all eternity. But you wouldnt know that because you skip the beautiful story of our creation and human history where God lead our ancestors through all the generations of life until this day. That's how you miss the triune God because you don't read the OT.

It's a shame because you really are missing out on such a beautiful and amazing FREEDOM of the heart, mind and soul that comes from surrender to the King. it's an amazing freedom full of joy and love and grace and mercy and it is not weighed down by all these crazy rules and laws and works and boundaries about how to be a Christian that you have misconstrued. I will pray for you as I already have been that you will see that the Bible says FAITH, HOPE AND LOVE and these 3 will remain while everything else is wiped away!!!!!! HALLELUJIA thank you Jesus

"Three things will last forever--faith, hope, and love--and the greatest of these is love." 1 Corinthians 13:13
 

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I feel sorry for you Squeaky for you are unable to rightly divide the word of truth

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lol That is the silliest thing you have ever said. Jesus said the Father is the only true God. I'm a true believer. Your walking in strong delusions.

[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
 

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If Jesus is not God then why does it matter? According to your 'god' Jesus is not God so why on earth would you place Jesus words as more IMPORTANT THAN the Father or the Holy Spirit? If the Holy Spirit is not God then why on earth are all your posts about "the importance of proving you have the Holy Spirit in you"? if the Holy Spirit is not God then having the Holy Spirit dwell inside you would be like letting another spirit other than God dwell inside you and why would you want that!? That is what is happening to you and it's making it difficult to see the Truth. Your talking about all these spirits dwelling inside you and the devil on one shoulder and guardian angel on the other telling you what to do and think. Life must be so confusing for you and it really really complicates the beauty of the Gospel. If the Father is the only God then you should definately only listen to him and not have these other spirits dwelling in you. You want to prove prove prove that the Holy Spirit is dwelling in you but if that spirit is not God then why would you listen to it and have it inside you!?


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If you don't know that stuff how can you know where your thoughts are coming from? You cant. And everyone has other spirits in them. If you don't know that then are walking in deception. If you don't know that how can you know the right God? There is another one.

[2Co 11:12-15
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast.
13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

[2Th 2:4
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

You cant know who is guiding you until you know all the players.
 
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