The Lord for Christians is not the physical Jesus.

[Gurucam]

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2000 odd years ago the physical Jesus left and returned as the Spirit Jesus, who is the Spirit of Truth who brings All Truth and who, in this Spirit only format, is the Lord of Christians.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

In the flesh or in his Spirit only body, Jesus is 'the truth', 'the way' and 'the life' and no one comes onto God/the Holy Spirit but through Him.

The Lord for Christians is totally about the Spirit Jesus (who is the Spirit of Truth). The Lord for Christians is not the flesh Jesus or Moses or the ten commandments.

Jesus came physically and temporally, 2000 odd years ago. Then he left so as to return as the eternal, Spirit of Truth who makes intercession with the Holy Spirit on behalf of Saints/Christians. 2000 odd years ago, Jesus set the parameters for judgment under His Spirit . . . and this has been on-going. There is no return of a physical/temporal Jesus.

There is only the eternal Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love who informs and guides Christians, in real time, all the time. Also upon death this Spirit judges and dispatches people, either to heaven (if they served spirit and Spirit) or hell (if they serve flesh and the ten commandments).

Judgment and dispatch is based on how/to what, a person soweth in his or her life on earth.

Feel free to ask for literal and clear revelations from the Holy KJV N.T., which totally support the above, in the finest details.

Remember, God did not promise Abraham and his seed a physical Jesus. God promised Abraham and his seed a Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love. This is the Spirit of Jesus.

 

[Gurucam]

Only the Spirit Jesus is Lord. The flesh Jesus is not Lord.

Only the Spirit Jesus is Lord. The flesh Jesus is not Lord.

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Jesus rose to heaven in a 'spirit only' body. And in that 'Spirit only' format He is Lord.

In that Spirit only format He sits on the right side of the Holy Spirit, ready willing and able to make intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of Saints/Christians:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

'The will of God' is literally the Spirit of God or the Holy Spirit.

 

[Gurucam]

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

The promised Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love. Since 2000 odd years ago, this Spirit is Lord and 'sits' on the right side of the Holy Spirit, ready willing and able to make intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of Saints/Christians.

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

 

[beameup]

The Holy Spirit was sent in Acts 2. Jesus Christ remains at the right-hand of the Father.
Being of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit reflects the Lord Jesus Christ.
Pretty simple really.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:9

 

[Gurucam]

The Holy Spirit was sent in Acts 2. Jesus Christ remains at the right-hand of the Father.
Being of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit reflects the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pretty simple really.

John 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Even prettier and most simple is the above which confirmed: The Father does not exist other than as the Holy Spirit. The Lord Jesus who rose to heaven clad only in His Spirit body is 'seated on the right side of God/the Father, who exist only as the Holy Spirit.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:9

Simply repeating that slogan counts for nothing. You cannot believe/know that Jesus rose to heaven if you have not had communion with the Spirit of Jesus through your own heart/spirit.

You cannot believe any thing in your heart, if your heart is waxed gross (covered over). A person whose heart is waxed gross is call the dead. They are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom:

Matthew: 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

However a billion strong traditional Christians are repeating that slogan and falsely believing that they are Christians and saved. There is no way that a billion people can be the chosen few.

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

A billion traditional Christians, who repeat that slogan cannot be the few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Also you cannot believe/know that Jesus rose to heaven if you have not had communion with the Spirit of Jesus through your own heart/spirit. And without this believing/knowing your mouth confession is baseless, useless and without merits.

You mouth confession must result from believing/knowing/witnessing Jesus, alive, in your heart where God's kingdom of heaven exist:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Simply parroting that slogan means that you have not seek ye first the kingdom of God that is within. So you do not not know that Jesus rose to heaven, in God's kingdom of heaven. You have not seek ye first and discerned the kingdom of God that is within, so how would you believe/know that Jesus is is alive, well and living in God's kingdom (that is within). Therefore your mouth confession is simply foolishness. You are simply parroting an arbitrary slogan.

You are totally misled by false prophets who are presenting themselves as your priests/pastors:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Confessing with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead is simply your validation that Jesus is in God's kingdom of heaven that is within, because you have actually gone within and discern Jesus in God's kingdom of heaven. So you actually know (from you own experience) that God raised him to heaven this is why you can make that mouth confession.

Fact is only a few will achieve this level of 'knowing'. This is why only a few are chosen. These few have actually communed with the Jesus in God's kingdom of heaven.

It is not the mouth confession which saved you.

You are saved when you can make that mouth confession based on your actual knowing that God raised Jesus to heaven, because you communed with Jesus, in heaven.

Your mouth confession is simply your validation of knowing that Jesus is alive in heaven from your actually knowing so from your own experience of God's kingdom that is within.

It is that you have reached God's kingdom of heaven that is within and found Jesus there and is led into all your works, in real time, all the time, by Jesus.

Let not false prophet misled you, as they do a billion strong traditional Christians.

Paul actually communed with Jesus, as the Spirit of Truth after Jesus rose to heaven. Therefore when Paul confess that God raise Jesus to heaven, Paul is speaking from his actual experience. This is the only correct way to make this confession. This is the only way to be saved and to be Christian.

 

[Gurucam]

A billion traditional Christians are under false prophets and not the chosen few.

A billion traditional Christians are under false prophets and not the chosen few.

beameup

John 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

So there we have it very straight and very simple:

God, the Father is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. There is no separate entity as God or the Father. There is only the Holy Spirit. Simply stated, God/Jesus' Father is a Spirit.

Jesus, the Son of God is also a Spirit and Lord from and in, heaven.

Jesus is the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. . . . and no one comes onto God/the Father, Who is the Holy Spirit but through the Spirit Jesus. Therefore Jesus, who is another Spirit (the Spirit of Truth) is a separate entity who makes intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of Saints/Christians.

One has to be totally foolish to believe that one can throw out all other intricate requirements in the Holy KJV N.T. and simply repeat the slogan "God raised Jesus from the dead' and one will be saved.

A billion strong traditional Christians believe and do this ludicrous thing. This is why many are called and few chosen. These billion strong traditional Christians are not the chosen few. They are the very great majority of those called to be Christians and do not make it. And they do not make it because they err because they do not know scriptures accurately. And they do not know scriptures accurately because they were/are misled by false prophets and duped, for all their life time:

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

It is as simple and straightforward as the above. This is why the very great majority of people who believe that they are Christians are not actually Christians. They are simply not chosen. They were totally misled into upholding some strange doctrine that is not at all Christianity. Their is clearly Satan's/Antichrist doctrine.

Fact is false prophets must operate and operated, from within the heart of what passes for Christianity, in order to misguide many.

A billion strong traditional/main stream Christians are simply the many victims of these many false prophets. They certainly cannot be the chosen few who know scriptures accurately and do not err.

 

[Gurucam]

A small request: seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness.

A small request: seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness.

beameup

beameup

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Do not expect a free ride to heaven by simply repeating a slogan.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Do not be fooled and misled. Repeating a slogan will not bring you among the chosen few. However doing the will of God will bring you among the chosen few . . . and, indeed, run away from among the billion strong traditional/main stream Christians. They cannot be the chosen few. They are simply deceiving themselves in plain sight, with obstinacy.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The above confirms that he who searches his own heart or spirit commune with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession (in heaven) and he will know what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for him to pray for, say and do. And what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to pray for, say and do is always in line with the Will of God.

Therefore by doing precisely what the 'living' Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to pray for, say and do as discerned within one's own heart, in real time, all the time, one does the real time will of the 'living' God.

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

After receiving all the above instructions and guidelines, from the Holy KJV N.T., a billion strong traditional/main stream Christians believes the likes of Joel Olsen who says that, in order to be saved, all one has to do is repeat the following slogan: 'if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved'.

Why then would the likes of Joel Olsen read the Bible for hours on live T.V.

It is very clear that only after one achieve the above instruction that one can believe/know any thing with one's heart/spirit. Only then can one make the above mouth confession as required.

One cannot simply ignore the above and all other revelations from the Holy KJV N.T. and foolishly believe that simply parroting the above slogan will save one.

Matthew 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Clearly "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." is a parables given to fool and falsely appease the possible violent and unruly masses who were looking for quick fixes.

Do you realize that only the disciples got the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, from Jesus, in very privately sessions, among only them.

Everyone else, who Jesus encountered, got parables. And parables were given to those whosoever do not have. Parables were given to those people with the intention of taking from them even that which they have. (i.e. whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.)

 

[Gurucam]

beameup, you are in very deep trouble, a la Joel Olsen and the likes.

beameup, you are in very deep trouble, a la Joel Olsen and the likes.

Dear: beameup

Joel Olsen constantly ignore other prescriptions in scriptures and say: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

If the above is all the requirement, why were so many other added things necessary and printed, in the Holy KJV N.T.?

You are running with Olsen, are you not? Sought a 'short-cut' to salvation? Those who seek 'short cut' to salvation are deceived with parables. Only the genuine and pains-taking seekers get the truth. This is standard operating procedure for Jesus.

However hear what Jesus said:

Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Do not be fooled and misled. Repeating a slogan will not bring you among the chosen few.

However doing the will of God will bring you among the chosen few.

. . . and, indeed, run away from among the billion strong traditional/main stream Christians.

You delight in simplicity, don't you?

Let us face the simple fact, they (i.e. a billion strong traditional/main stream Christians) cannot be the chosen few. They cannot be the few who found the straight gate and narrow way. They are the masses who are simply playing. They are simply deceiving themselves in plain sight, with obstinacy.

A billion strong traditional/main stream Christians must be the arrogant, 'bold face', deluded and misled masses . . . who are not chosen. They are masses who are appeased and fooled with parables.

. . . a billion 'into' a few, simply 'can't go' . . . not at all. That is like trying to have an elephant go through the eye of a needle.

How indeed will a billion fit into a few? Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians have scriptures wrong, err and are not among the chosen few.

A billion traditional Christians do not care to be the chosen few or among the chosen few. They simply want to be a huge number of people, (a billion), internationally. They want bragging rights to fuel their egos and pride.

They totally ignore and relegate the Holy KJV N.T. advisory, 'many are called and few chosen' and 'people err when they do not know scriptures, accurately'.

They take a conscious decision to be wrong and bold and brazen.

. . . the above is simple kindergarten 'sums', not, at all, Calculus.

 

[Gurucam]

Beameup, You are running with Joel Olsen, are you not?

Beameup, You are running with Joel Olsen, are you not?

Dear: beameup

You are running with Olsen, are you not? Sought a 'short-cut' to salvation? Those who seek 'short cut' to salvation are deceived with parables. Only the genuine and pains-taking seekers get the truth. This is standard operating procedure for Jesus.

2000 odd years ago, only the twelve disciples were given to know truth. Indeed Jesus gave truth to only the disciples, in very private session among only them. Every one else got parables which were not good for any thing, except to take away the little that people had:

Matthew 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The question is: are you proudly but totally foolishly using parables?

Jesus had two agendas. One was for those who follow Him (to heaven) and the other for the dead who are given to bury each other, in hell:

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Sheep revelations are truth. These are for those who follow Him to heaven.

Goat revelations are parables. These are for the dead to bury each other in hell.

Do you know how to separate 'sheep revelations' from 'goats revelations', in the Holy KJV N.T.

Sheep revelation takes one to heaven. Goat revelations takes onto hell:

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

. . . you by-pass all the above revelations so as to parrot a slogan?

Seems that the slogan that you were led to parrot is a parable (a goat revelation) that is given to take away the little that you have. Parables were given to fool-up arrogant and violent people who did not want to hear truth but wanted to have their foolishness validate . . . and so it was done and so be it.

Through parables 'the dead were left to interpret things their way, killeth each other and then bury each other'. This is how Jesus 'let the dead bury their dead'.