The LAW was our schoolmaster

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Wherefore then serveth the LAW? It was given because of transgressions (sin), till the seed [Messiah] should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator [Moses]. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. Is the LAW then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a LAW given which could have given LIFE, verily righteousness should have been by the LAW.

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith [in Yeshua Messiah] came, we were kept under the LAW, shut up unto the faith which should later be revealed. Wherefore the LAW was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith [in Christ]. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster [ie: the LAW]. -Galatians 3:19-25
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Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 2:5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.
 
KingdomRose

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Beameup, why don't you write down your point? All of us could sit here all day and quote scripture, and no one would know what anyone was trying to say.
 
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In short...

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
beameup

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Strong's: paidagógos: -- a boy's guardian or tutor, a slave who had charge of the life and morals of the boys of a family
HELPS: paidagōgós: -- a legally appointed overseer, authorized to train (bring) up a child by administering discipline, chastisement, and instruction
Thayer's: παιδαγωγός -- a guide and guardian of boys. Among the Greeks and Romans the name was applied to trustworthy slaves who were charged with the duty of supervising the life and morals of boys belonging to the better class. The boys were not allowed so much as to step out of the house without them before arriving at the age of manhood
 
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Other than for its' great, highly useful, word concordance as an aid in the comparison of the use of words with the use of words in the various passages, put away your Strong's, and get back to the Scripture for your answers.

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
 
KingdomRose

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beameup said:
schoolmaster
Strong's: paidagógos: -- a boy's guardian or tutor, a slave who had charge of the life and morals of the boys of a family
HELPS: paidagōgós: -- a legally appointed overseer, authorized to train (bring) up a child by administering discipline, chastisement, and instruction
Thayer's: παιδαγωγός -- a guide and guardian of boys. Among the Greeks and Romans the name was applied to trustworthy slaves who were charged with the duty of supervising the life and morals of boys belonging to the better class. The boys were not allowed so much as to step out of the house without them before arriving at the age of manhood
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What is your point in all this quoting?
 
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Grace has been given by God that reprieves Christians of sin covered by Jesus' blood. The law is needed to convict people of their sin to bring them to Christ. "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law" (Romans 3:31). I am still studying the commandments in the Bible. “If you love Me,” Jesus said, “keep My commandments” (John 14:15).
 
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Epoisses said:
The Galatians were Gentiles and Hellenist Jews who renounced the law.
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The pedagog left his office when a son reached adulthood, signified by the Father placing the adult toga upon him.

We are to put on Christ as a garment.

We can reach spiritual adulthood because the Father has given us Messiah. The law has been annulled and is not the rule of life for me. King David could not reach spiritual adulthood because of this pedagog/law
We can and will if we practice grace living after the Law of Liberty.


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These promises belong to the redeemed, regenerate heirs of grace. The unregenerate, bound by law, under condemnation, will worshippers have no part in this promise.
 
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Epoisses said:
The Galatians were Gentiles and Hellenist Jews who renounced the law.
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Paul had to deal with the "Law Question" because most early Christians were Jews. It was never relevant to Gentiles, and I do not understand why people here keep going on about it.
 
beameup

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Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:20-23
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I think the "problem" is with the Talmudic "traditions of men", which added a multitude of "laws" unto Moses.
To an outside observer it seems that the god of the Jews, "the god of two refrigerators", is absurd and ludicrous.
 
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beameup said:
I think the "problem" is with the Talmudic "traditions of men", which added a multitude of "laws" unto Moses.
To an outside observer it seems that the god of the Jews, "the god of two refrigerators", is absurd and ludicrous.
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The customs and traditions of others often look absurd and ridiculous to an intolerant observer.
 
beameup

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The customs and traditions of others often look absurd and ridiculous to an intolerant observer.
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The "traditions of men" was precisely what Jesus came to expose, because Judaism had "created a god in their own image", that no longer represented YHWH.
Adding an endless number of man-made "laws" to Moses as if that somehow "pleased" YHWH, when in fact it had the opposite effect, and made YHWH a mockery among the Gentiles.
Now, 2,000 years later, it appears that nothing has changed.
 
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beameup said:
The "traditions of men" was precisely what Jesus came to expose, because Judaism had "created a god in their own image", that no longer represented YHWH.
Adding an endless number of man-made "laws" to Moses as if that somehow "pleased" YHWH, when in fact it had the opposite effect, and made YHWH a mockery among the Gentiles.
Now, 2,000 years later, it appears that nothing has changed.
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Speaking of absurd: if anybody created a new God, it was not the Jews. The most we did was develop some additional traditions and customes. Christians developed a new man-god.
 
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