The Existence of Climate "Change."
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Danoh,
I doubt very few, if any, people deny the climate is changing. I've watched changes in it for decades. However, I dispute the idea that it is human caused. Climate change has been going on for many centuries. There have been periodic cooling and warming cycles for thousands of years. Meaning, of course, that these cycles happened long before man-made pollutants could have been responsible for any of it.
As to the "settled science" part of the argument there have been 900 scientific papers published in 2017 alone disputing what the alarmists and politicians have been trumpeting. It's also interesting that the former head of Greenpeace has come out against this agenda. And, since there has been no warming now for the last 19 years the arguments for it are looking ever more specious. So, this is far from a controversy that was "settled" already.
You might find the following link interesting. It is pretty transparent as to who has signed this petition and what their qualifications are.
http://www.petitionproject.org/
I doubt very few, if any, people deny the climate is changing. I've watched changes in it for decades. However, I dispute the idea that it is human caused. Climate change has been going on for many centuries. There have been periodic cooling and warming cycles for thousands of years. Meaning, of course, that these cycles happened long before man-made pollutants could have been responsible for any of it.
As to the "settled science" part of the argument there have been 900 scientific papers published in 2017 alone disputing what the alarmists and politicians have been trumpeting. It's also interesting that the former head of Greenpeace has come out against this agenda. And, since there has been no warming now for the last 19 years the arguments for it are looking ever more specious. So, this is far from a controversy that was "settled" already.
You might find the following link interesting. It is pretty transparent as to who has signed this petition and what their qualifications are.
http://www.petitionproject.org/
Jerry Shugart
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Good points all!
At the same time, you well know the impact that one minor shift in your health can have on other aspects of your own body's internal "climate."
You well know by now, of some the all encompassing result of "the bondage of corruption" brought about on every aspect of this planet "by one man's transgression."
And just as with this planet itself, within each of us is a very intricate, very minutely interconnected eco-system.
Just as our actions and inactions greatly impact each our own internal eco-system, likewise as to our impact on the eco-system all around us, and that we are so a part of.
All the way back to when man was first not only comprised of this very Earth itself, but made so as to have to rely on its air, water, etc., for all sorts of aspects of his living on this wondrous planet the LORD created.
Even His destruction of it all one day is not only His right and perogative ALONE - for He ALONE is righteous - but He will obviously be restoring it to His intended eco-system for it, free of its wacked out climate.
When you think about it, the Scripture teaches climate change is a very real issue.
What happened in that garden resulted in some very drastic changes for this entire planet.
Changes that impacted every aspect of this planet that God is not to blame for.
You see this here...
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
All sorts of climate change resulted on this planet from just that one action on man's part.
Consider also, all that will be reversed throughout this planet, with this...
Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
The Bible Believer's "research" into ALL things and their understanding, is in THAT Book.
Not, in the findings of men, outside of Its ever needed...lens.
Rom. 5:8; 14:5.
Danoh,As to the "settled science" part of the argument there have been 900 scientific papers published in 2017 alone disputing what the alarmists and politicians have been trumpeting. It's also interesting that the former head of Greenpeace has come out against this agenda. And, since there has been no warming now for the last 19 years the arguments for it are looking ever more specious. So, this is far from a controversy that was "settled" already.
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
Danoh,As to the "settled science" part of the argument there have been 900 scientific papers published in 2017 alone disputing what the alarmists and politicians have been trumpeting. It's also interesting that the former head of Greenpeace has come out against this agenda. And, since there has been no warming now for the last 19 years the arguments for it are looking ever more specious. So, this is far from a controversy that was "settled" already.
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
Somebody's trust has certainly been betrayed, but I don't think it was mine. Read what a major figure in the UN climate change has to say about what is going on. It exposes the agenda at the UN agency she has been leading for the past 6 years. This climate change agenda is about the destruction of capitalism. Pure and simple. It is a con game. Pure and simple. It's about enforcing socialism.
http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-b...he-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
(claim that there has been no warming of the Earth in the last 19 years)
Barbarian suggests:
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/t..._v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
If you think those data say that there hasn't been any warming in the past 19 years, I think we've found why you were so easy to fool.
You need to be less swayed by what people say, and more willing to face the data. Reality is not up for a UN vote. It's there, no matter who dislikes it. Learn to live with it. And be a little more skeptical of people with stories instead of evidence.
Barbarian suggests:
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/t..._v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
If you think those data say that there hasn't been any warming in the past 19 years, I think we've found why you were so easy to fool.
You need to be less swayed by what people say, and more willing to face the data. Reality is not up for a UN vote. It's there, no matter who dislikes it. Learn to live with it. And be a little more skeptical of people with stories instead of evidence.
(claim that there has been no warming of the Earth in the last 19 years)
Barbarian suggests:
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/t..._v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
If you think those data say that there hasn't been any warming in the past 19 years, I think we've found why you were so easy to fool.
You need to be less swayed by what people say, and more willing to face the data. Reality is not up for a UN vote. It's there, no matter who dislikes it. Learn to live with it. And be a little more skeptical of people with stories instead of evidence.
Oh, so the woman the UN put in charge of their alarmist global warming agenda dislikes the global warming agenda.... And a UN site is going to misrepresent what she said? That's really a pretty amusing claim to make. Especially when her actions and words over the last 6 years denies what you say. Talk about denial. When the people at the head of the movement say it is all political, then maybe you ought to listen. She's a socialist, for crying out loud. She's with the agenda. She just said more than she really meant to. She just confirmed that it is a political agenda. That you deny it is doesn't make you more credible.
You point to La Nina and El Nino graphs over a 3 period and this is supposed to be evidence of global warming? Are you really that ignorant? Those temps go up and down all the time. They have been cycling for millenia. And the rapidly expanding ice pack pack in the artic is once again because the overall sea temps are rising so much? The things you alarmists expect a person to believe just beggars belief.
In the following link there is a quote from a global warming scientist and activist. It's pretty interesting as he questions just how honest he can really be, and be an effective global warming alarmist/activist. That ought to tell you something about the entire agenda, but I hold out little hope of that. You're a "true believer".
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamest...-ipcc-is-in-damage-control-mode/#450502c12695
Barbarian suggests:
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/t..._v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
If you think those data say that there hasn't been any warming in the past 19 years, I think we've found why you were so easy to fool.
Has nothing whatever to do with the data. Sorry, no bunny trails for you, today. We're talking about your claim that there hasn't been any warming in the last 19 years. As you see, that's completely false.
If you want to talk about your political agenda, start a new thread. We're dealing with the data here.
Well, let's take a look...
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/t..._v3/GLB.Ts.txt
The hottest three years have been the last three years, and the current one is on schedule to be the hottest ever.
Someone's betrayed your trust in them.
If you think those data say that there hasn't been any warming in the past 19 years, I think we've found why you were so easy to fool.
Has nothing whatever to do with the data. Sorry, no bunny trails for you, today. We're talking about your claim that there hasn't been any warming in the last 19 years. As you see, that's completely false.
If you want to talk about your political agenda, start a new thread. We're dealing with the data here.