The Earth Came Up From the Water?

Drake Shelton

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The Bible says that the land came up from the Water:

Gen. 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

This is completely inconsistent with the globe model of the world and exactly what the Flat Earth model suggests.

HebrewConceptEarth.jpg
 

beameup

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It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40:22 - Circle = Sphere
 

Drake Shelton

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It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40:22 - Circle = Sphere

You have not addressed the op.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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The Bible says that the land came up from the Water:

Gen. 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

This is completely inconsistent with the globe model of the world and exactly what the Flat Earth model suggests.

HebrewConceptEarth.jpg

:chuckle:
 

Greg Jennings

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The Bible says that the land came up from the Water:

Gen. 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

This is completely inconsistent with the globe model of the world and exactly what the Flat Earth model suggests.

HebrewConceptEarth.jpg

Close. It accumulated from solar system debris orbiting the sun
 

Interplanner

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With a total of 10 words or so about the conditions existing at the time of creation, it is very difficult to agree to the image or diagram shown.

Many of Moses sections follow this pattern of writing:

1, title statement
2, pre-existing condition
3, new action
4, summary statement

We don't know why the pre-existing condition was there, but the expression 'formless and void' (tohu wa-bohu) was only used in the OT when a place had been devastated/destroyed, Jer. 4:22 for one. It then needed to be rebuilt.

If you follow the descriptions of the deluge (Noah's) in the Bible, you pretty much conclude there was very little of the geo-morphology that we see all around today before the flood. Everything was pretty flat and arable. Uniformitarianism certainly has no way to account for most geo-morphology seen today. There are even some theories that the earth was smaller before the flood.

Back to the OP question: everything is therefore 'on the table.' The Creators sheer command is 'how' things are made, or not, leaving very little opportunity to 'check' things scientifically as far as 'processes' go. This kind of Creator is found, by the way, in many origin-myths around the world. (It is always hilarious to me that people who don't believe in God also come packing all kinds of restrictions on what he could or could not do!).

Our 'scientific processes' would tell us that there shouldn't be light in the first verses because the sun is made on the 3rd day, but this only confuses the issue of the type and abilities of Creator we are grappling with. There are other kinds of light, and there are other ways of putting things such as our solar system together.
 

Crucible

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It's highly doubtful that the Jews believed what that model represents, or any ancients for that matter- people make ridiculous conclusions from whatever they can out of scriptures and lore.
 

Drake Shelton

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With a total of 10 words or so about the conditions existing at the time of creation, it is very difficult to agree to the image or diagram shown.

Many of Moses sections follow this pattern of writing:

1, title statement
2, pre-existing condition
3, new action
4, summary statement

We don't know why the pre-existing condition was there, but the expression 'formless and void' (tohu wa-bohu) was only used in the OT when a place had been devastated/destroyed, Jer. 4:22 for one. It then needed to be rebuilt.

If you follow the descriptions of the deluge (Noah's) in the Bible, you pretty much conclude there was very little of the geo-morphology that we see all around today before the flood. Everything was pretty flat and arable. Uniformitarianism certainly has no way to account for most geo-morphology seen today. There are even some theories that the earth was smaller before the flood.

Back to the OP question: everything is therefore 'on the table.' The Creators sheer command is 'how' things are made, or not, leaving very little opportunity to 'check' things scientifically as far as 'processes' go. This kind of Creator is found, by the way, in many origin-myths around the world. (It is always hilarious to me that people who don't believe in God also come packing all kinds of restrictions on what he could or could not do!).

Our 'scientific processes' would tell us that there shouldn't be light in the first verses because the sun is made on the 3rd day, but this only confuses the issue of the type and abilities of Creator we are grappling with. There are other kinds of light, and there are other ways of putting things such as our solar system together.

You completely ignored the op.
 

Drake Shelton

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It did. But the graphic in your post is wrong. IT says nothing of a vapor canopy. That is made up.

That is a complete diversion from the op. I also never said anything about a vapor canopy. The image maintains a firmament.

Gen. 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
 

jamie

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Heb. 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

I think it is apparent that atoms, the building blocks of nature, are not readily seen. In fact, we have to really squint to even see them. And I would caution epileptics not to look too closely at atoms because the frenetic activity of the electrons could easily cause a seizure, especially the more complex atoms.

It seems like you are saying water comes from atomic structure, is that right? Maybe by combining a couple of hydrogen atoms with an oxygen atom? Maybe?
 
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