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Baloney.... another bold pronouncement without support.The Lord Jesus Christ's Passion and cross fulfilled the Old Covent's Levitical priesthood, and instituted the New Covenant's priesthood of Melchizedek.
Baloney.... another bold pronouncement without support.The Lord Jesus Christ's Passion and cross fulfilled the Old Covent's Levitical priesthood, and instituted the New Covenant's priesthood of Melchizedek.
So is that the 'moral law' then, that was transferred? I.e. that morals didn't change, from the Old to the New Covenant?
please learn the difference between Law and ordinance...there is a speed limit law which all must keep...and if you are caught breaking this law you are given a ticket...THAT is an ordinance...held against you contrary to you your desire for speed...you have to pay it...You have 0 scripture and insults.
The Bible plainly teaches that for the Christian the law has been abolished. You don't want to believe this because you are religious.
"Blotting out the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us and took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross" Colossians 2:14.
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in the ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace" Ephesians 2:15.
Again He did not abolish the law...He made provision for you to be adopted IN and BY LAW...now you and the jew are one people allowed IN...you are NOT an alien any longer...as the laws to keep you out were abolished...that wall seperating you as an alien from the jew who claims his promise...
You wish to get rid of all LAW when only BY LAW can you secure your promise...
does a life lived by faith look lawless?what this means is that your religion is worthless.
Christians do not live according to rules and laws because, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17.
If you live according to law, you will be judged by the law and condemned.
Paul wrote, "Tell me that you desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law" Galatians 4:21.
You apparently do not hear the law. The law demands perfection. You don't have it to offer.
Paul here was referring to those who wished to be saved by keeping the Law not people who kept the Law for being saved...
Isaac DID NOTHING to be born of promise...but he obeyed to remain a son of promise...
You have 0 scripture and insults.
The Bible plainly teaches that for the Christian the law has been abolished. You don't want to believe this because you are religious.
"Blotting out the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us and took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross" Colossians 2:14.
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in the ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace" Ephesians 2:15.
Christians do not live according to rules and laws because, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17.
If you live according to law, you will be judged by the law and condemned.
Paul wrote, "Tell me that you desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law" Galatians 4:21.
You apparently do not hear the law. The law demands perfection. You don't have it to offer.
Baloney.... another bold pronouncement without support.
The above deceitful, from the pits of hell, "Pate-anity," vs. the scripture's testimony:
Psalms 111 KJV
7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.
8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.
Matthew 5:17 KJV Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Psalm 119:151-152 KJV, Psalms 119:159-160 KJV
151 Thou art near, O Lord; and all thy commandments are truth.152 Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever......
159 Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy lovingkindness. 160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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Pate-ianity:
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that [U]Christ died to abolish the law, not for our sins according to Pate-anity[/U]; 4 and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
He abolished it because it was contrary to us, no one could keep it or do it.......God requires( two things) for the salvation of fallen man.:A life of perfect obedience according to God's law."
God requires two things) for the salvation of fallen man:A life of perfect obedience according to God's law.............
please learn the difference between Law and ordinance...there is a speed limit law which all must keep...and if you are caught breaking this law you are given a ticket...THAT is an ordinance...held against you contrary to you your desire for speed...you have to pay it...
But at the cross another debt or penalty was paid for you...that ticket was paid for you...not the law you broke to get it...
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in the ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace" Ephesians 2:15.[/B]
Again He did not abolish the law...He made provision for you to be adopted IN and BY LAW...now you and the jew are one people allowed IN...you are NOT an alien any longer...as the laws to keep you out were abolished...that wall seperating you as an alien from the jew who claims his promise...
You wish to get rid of all LAW when only BY LAW can you secure your promise...
does a life lived by faith look lawless?
Paul here was referring to those who wished to be saved by keeping the Law not people who kept the Law for being saved...
Isaac DID NOTHING to be born of promise...but he obeyed to remain a son of promise...
You would make a good Galatian because you want to be under the law.
Paul would say to you..."Tell me that you desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law" Galatians 4:21.
You and John W. do not hear the law because you are spiritually blind. The law will damn you to hell. Listen to what Paul is saying to you.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse" Galatians 3:10.
You had better hope that the law has been abolished, if you don't then you are under it and are under condemnation.
please learn the difference between Law and ordinance...there is a speed limit law which all must keep...and if you are caught breaking this law you are given a ticket...THAT is an ordinance...held against you contrary to you your desire for speed...you have to pay it...
But at the cross another debt or penalty was paid for you...that ticket was paid for you...not the law you broke to get it...
You would make a good Galatian because you want to be under the law.
Paul would say to you..."Tell me that you desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law" Galatians 4:21.
You and John W. do not hear the law because you are spiritually blind. The law will damn you to hell. Listen to what Paul is saying to you.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse" Galatians 3:10.
You had better hope that the law has been abolished, if you don't then you are under it and are under condemnation.
You teach Salvation by the Law, either do or die. You have the gall to condemn others for what you yourself do !
Please don't underline, it makes your post difficult to read.
It is not good theology to mix Old Testament scripture with new Testament scripture.
All Old Testament scripture was written under the law.
Christians are no longer under the law because the law has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
Jesus's mission was not to destroy the law.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is not the Gospel, it is an outline of the Gospel. The Gospel is revealed to us in the following scriptures, Romans 5:12-21, Romans 6:3-23, 2 Corinthians 5:17-21.
His word-for-word spam, asserting that those saved are saved because the "Jesus" perfect walk in the law of God is imputed to them, and that is THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD=walking perfectly in the law.What it comes down to is all that Jesus did in his life, death and resurrection he did for us, in our name and on our behalf for our salvation and our justification, Romans 3:26. No one will enter heaven that has not been justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus.
please learn the difference between Law and ordinance...there is a speed limit law which all must keep...and if you are caught breaking this law you are given a ticket...THAT is an ordinance...held against you contrary to you your desire for speed...you have to pay it...
But at the cross another debt or penalty was paid for you...that ticket was paid for you...not the law you broke to get it...
You would make a good Galatian because you want to be under the law.
Paul would say to you..."Tell me that you desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law" Galatians 4:21.
You and John W. do not hear the law because you are spiritually blind. The law will damn you to hell. Listen to what Paul is saying to you.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse" Galatians 3:10.
You had better hope that the law has been abolished, if you don't then you are under it and are under condemnation.
Why is murder, rape, stealing..........................wrong, Pate?
You had better hope that the law has been abolished, if you don't then you are under it and are under condemnation.
You would make a good Galatian because you want to be under the law.
Pate equates the law existing as being under it's condemnation.That is his twisted "logic."
Thus, his solution, for eg., to the law against speeding, is to do away with speeding laws, so we cannot be cited for a speeding offense(sin-transgression)!!! He asserts that, for eg., the US laws against speeding, murder, rape................are "contrary" to society, not the debt for violating/breaking the laws against those offenses. Eliminate the law, shouts Pate, so that no one can be condemned, charged with breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thus, his solution to the sins problem, is not that Christ died for the sins/offenses/transgressions we all commit, and thus paid "for our speeding ticket," the penalty, but to do away with ythe law(laws against speeding, murder, rape,..................), so that there is no sin/offense/transgression committed. Thus, he argues, on record, that Christ did nor die to pay our sin debt, but died to abolish the law, which establishes/defines the sin/offense/transgression, so that there is no sin/offense/transgression, and thus no penalty to be paid-Christ died in vain.
It is that simple, this demonic "Pate-ianity."
You and John W. do not hear the law because you are spiritually blind.. The law will damn you to hell
Pate's "logic:" If the law exists, you are damned to hell.
Pate: If the law against murder, rape, theft...................................exists, you are condemnned/damned, for breaking it. So, the problem is with the law, not the offender.Get rid of all laws, so that no one can be condemned/damned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, Pate, you demon, the solution is that the Saviour died in our place, to pay our debt, the debt that occurs, because we break the EXISTING law of God.
You deny this, and thus pervert the gospel of Christ.
Pate's "logic:" You American citizens had better hope that the law of Great Britain, France,................................has been abolished, if you don't then you are under other countries' laws,and are under their condemnation.
Dementia-no other option.
You need to go buy a King James Bible. Everything that I say is backed by scripture. If you want to convince people that they are wrong you need to do it with scripture. Calling people names is not going to get it. What it will get you is banned. I have shown you through scripture that the law has been banned for the Christian. I have also shown you through scripture that to be under the law is a curse, Galatians 3:10. You did not address the scriptures. All that you do is fret and call me names.
Jesus is the New Covenant.
"In that he says, A new covenant he has made the first Old (old law) Now is decaying and waxing old and is ready to vanish" Hebrews 8:13.
The law never did save anyone, nor does it justify. This is why Jesus abolished it. it was contrary to us, no one could keep it or do it.
"Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, WHICH WAS CONTRARY TO US and took it out of the way , nailing it to his cross" Colossians 2:14.
More utter hokum from the great RP.Jesus is the New Covenant.