Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation

[lifeisgood]

How many times do I have to explain that scripture to you?

As many times as are necessary!

That scripture is about being saved in the first place. That scripture is about having to obey and admit and repent of your sins if you want to get saved.

No. To whom is 1 John directed? It is not to the UNbeliever as you attest for no where does John call the UNbeliever "My little children" (1 John 2)

Now tell me this, I gave you a scripture that PLAINLY says those who do not obey do not know God...WHY didn't you address that scripture? Why did you just post another scripture that you do not understand, as if you can really nullify scripture by posting another one.

Because all being directed in 1 John are BELIEVERS and you are directing 1 John to UNbelievers as noted above.

Whoever says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

When are you going to do what He commands and enter into His rest?

 

[God's Truth]

As many times as are necessary!



No. To whom is 1 John directed? It is not to the UNbeliever as you attest for no where does John call the UNbeliever "My little children" (1 John 2)



Because all being directed in 1 John are BELIEVERS and you are directing 1 John to UNbelievers as noted above.



When are you going to do what He commands and enter into His rest?

John is speaking to BELIEVERS. He is confirming the truth that you do not have the Truth in you and thus saved if you never even admitted to being a sinner.

 

[lifeisgood]

That scripture---no matter WHAT translation you choose still shows PAUL BOASTING in his obedience.

No, Paul is NOT boasting. He is simply stating the fact that since the Lord saved him, he has become another person as anyone, including the council, which probably included the same ones who gave him letters so that he could go and destroy those of The Way, can see. Stating a fact is NOT boasting.

Boasting is 'When I was lost, before I heard the Gospel, I obeyed and because I obeyed, when I was totally lost, and blind, and wretched, and wanted nothing to do with God, etc., then because God saw that I obeyed Him, He decided that I deserved to be saved and He saved me, because I did something'; therefore, negating Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary. That is boasting.

 

[God's Truth]

No, Paul is NOT boasting. He is simply stating the fact that since the Lord saved him, he has become another person as anyone, including the council, which probably included the same ones who gave him letters so that he could go and destroy those of The Way, can see. Stating a fact is NOT boasting.

Boasting is 'When I was lost, before I heard the Gospel, I obeyed and because I obeyed, when I was totally lost, and blind, and wretched, and wanted nothing to do with God, etc., then because God saw that I obeyed Him, He decided that I deserved to be saved and He saved me, because I did something'; therefore, negating Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary. That is boasting.

Just believe what is plainly written.

 

[lifeisgood]

John is speaking to BELIEVERS. He is confirming the truth that you do not have the Truth in you and thus saved if you never even admitted to being a sinner.

Do you even think or read what you write for understanding before you answer?

gt:
believers - confirming the truth to believers

BUT gt says

you do not have the Truth in you and thus saved if you never even admitted to being a sinner

But John is talking to BELIEVERS.

Go figure.

 

[lifeisgood]

Just believe what is plainly written.

I believe what is written, but not what you write.

 

[lifeisgood]

That translation you choose shows Paul boasted in his obedience.

Who would EVER try to shame someone for obeying?

Where do you get that from?

Paul is NOT boasting on himself. GT is though.

 

[lifeisgood]

You do not even understand that you are proving what I said.

That Paul is NOT boasting on himself? GT is though.

 

[God's Truth]

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

 

[God's Truth]

That Paul is NOT boasting on himself? GT is though.

Paul obeyed, said that he did, and said that if that is boasting, then he is boasting.

 

[lifeisgood]

I don't need you to tell me where to go.

However, gt, delights to tell others where to go.

 

[God's Truth]

Do you even think or read what you write for understanding before you answer?

gt:
believers - confirming the truth to believers

BUT gt says

you do not have the Truth in you and thus saved if you never even admitted to being a sinner

But John is talking to BELIEVERS.

Go figure.

That proves we have to obey by admitting we are sinners and repent of them if we want to be saved.

 

[lifeisgood]

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

:thumb: Have you OBEYED Him yet and entered into His rest?

 

[God's Truth]

However, gt, delights to tell others where to go.

Where do I tell people to go?

 

[lifeisgood]

Paul obeyed, said that he did, and said that if that is boasting, then he is boasting.

Another example of gt's non-reading for understanding. Reading only a . instead of reading within the context of what the writer is declaring. Typical.

 

[God's Truth]

:thumb: Have you OBEYED Him yet and entered into His rest?

I have obeyed him and he saved me.

The Holy Spirit is given to those who obey Jesus' teachings. See Acts 5:32.

 

[lifeisgood]

That proves we have to obey by admitting we are sinners and repent of them if we want to be saved.

John is speaking to ALREADY SAVED brothers/sisters. Get a reading understanding on will 'ya?

 

[God's Truth]

Another example of gt's non-reading for understanding. Reading only a . instead of reading within the context of what the writer is declaring. Typical.

Not so.

 

[lifeisgood]

Where do I tell people to go?

To go someplace else and leave you alone because you already know what the Bible says.

 

[God's Truth]

John is speaking to ALREADY SAVED brothers/sisters. Get a reading understanding on will 'ya?

John is speaking to BELIEVERS and telling them that all must admit they are sinners to be saved, and if anyone of them did not, then they are not saved.