Real Science Friday: RSF's Fred Williams Weighs in on AronRa

[Jefferson]

RSF's Fred Williams Weighs in on AronRa

This is the show from Friday November 25th, 2011.

BEST QUOTES OF THE SHOW:

They're thinking this soft dinosaur tissue isn't really dinosaur tissue and there's just a mountain of evidence that it is but they're afraid of it because they know in their heart of hearts that dinosaur tissue wouldn't last for tens of millions of years.

When I mentioned entropy and the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics he went on to babble about other dimensions and all and maybe the universe could be fed from a universe in another dimension. And that's not a refutation of the first 2 laws of thermodynamics, that's just story-telling.

SUMMARY:



* Bob Enyart and Fred Williams Analyze the AronRa Interview: Real Science Friday co-host Fred Williams talks to Bob Enyart about the series of RSF programs with atheist and evolutionist AronRa.

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[Stripe]

:chuckle:

 

[Granite]

So he's no longer being hyped as the "youtube star" AronRa. Okay then.

By the way, an argument of incredulity against multiverse theory isn't much of an argument.

 

[Stripe]

So he's no longer being hyped as the "youtube star" AronRa. Okay then.

:chuckle: Are you still concerned about that?

By the way, an argument of incredulity against multiverse theory isn't much of an argument.

Appropriate then since the multiverse theory isn't much of an argument in the first place.

:loser:

 

[Tyrathca]

What is the fascination with this youtube guy and why should anyone care whether his arguments are good or not?

 

[Stripe]

What is the fascination with this youtube guy and why should anyone care whether his arguments are good or not?

What is the atheist fascination with pretending not to care about AronRa? :chuckle:

 

[Stripe]

What is the fascination with this youtube guy and why should anyone care whether his arguments are good or not?

He testified in Texas to the State Board of Education on evolution in schools. :idunno:

 

[Granite]

What is the fascination with this youtube guy and why should anyone care whether his arguments are good or not?

I have no idea. Either Enyart thought he was a bigger deal, or has just been trying to make AronRa out to be a more dangerous and intimidating opponent. "YouTube star" has got to be one of the more interesting ways of damning with faint praise that I've ever seen, although I'm convinced it was inadvertent.

 

[Paulos]

What is the fascination with this youtube guy and why should anyone care whether his arguments are good or not?

I have no idea. Either Enyart thought he was a bigger deal, or has just been trying to make AronRa out to be a more dangerous and intimidating opponent. "YouTube star" has got to be one of the more interesting ways of damning with faint praise that I've ever seen, although I'm convinced it was inadvertent.

In my opinion, the best creationist debunker channels on Youtube are these:

http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks

Both are run by an Australian former geologist and science journalist, now semi-retired. He may be open to a debate with Bob.

BTW, he is a subscriber to AronRa's channel, so I assume he thinks highly of the guy's work.

 

[The Barbarian]

BTW, I notice the blurb for this video seems to endorse the old scam about coelacanths being unchanged for hundreds of millions of years.

Anyone seen it? Did they actually use that argument?

 

[Stripe]

:darwinsm:

:mock: Barbarian.

 

[Tyrathca]

What is the atheist fascination with pretending not to care about AronRa? :chuckle:

No need to pretend when I had no idea who he was until creationists claimed he was important. Most of his videos are also sub 30,000 views which on youtube is not that impressive.

He testified in Texas to the State Board of Education on evolution in schools. :idunno:

And this is relevant how?... I wasn't aware there were many restrictions on who could testify however can I now assume that Bob will track down some of the other Texans who testified? Unfortunately I couldn't find any reference to him attending let alone what he said.

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian asks:
BTW, I notice the blurb for this video seems to endorse the old scam about coelacanths being unchanged for hundreds of millions of years.

Anyone seen it? Did they actually use that argument?

(Stipe gets defensive)

I guess maybe they did.

 

[some other dude]

Stripe, getting defensive:

:darwinsm:

:mock: Barbarian.

Wait a tic!

Wasn't that "Stripe getting infuriated"?

 

[Stripe]

No need to pretend when I had no idea who he was until creationists claimed he was important. Most of his videos are also sub 30,000 views which on youtube is not that impressive.

Really? For a series of very specific and not short 15-odd videos on creation/evolution? I know 14 second clips of cats fighting get millions of clicks, but I suspect you might be comparing these unfairly...

And this is relevant how?... I wasn't aware there were many restrictions on who could testify however can I now assume that Bob will track down some of the other Texans who testified? Unfortunately I couldn't find any reference to him attending let alone what he said.

:doh:

Here we are talking about the most irrelevant aspect of the show - again.

Must be in a discussion with atheists.

*checks*

Right again.

Stripe, getting defensive: Wait a tic! Wasn't that "Stripe getting infuriated"?

I'm defuriasive.

Or else Barbarian reads expressions like Larsen reads a dog's: