Real Science Friday: Darwin's Racists Author on BEL

[Jefferson]

RSF: Darwin's Racists Author on BEL

This is the show from Thursday July 29th, 2010.

BEST QUOTES OF THE SHOW:

Darwin in his own writings identified people who were of dark skin, particularly blacks, that they are inferior, they are subhuman and possibly not even a human species at all.

There's a new movie coming out called Alleged about the Skopes monkey trial in Tennessee. They show the book that the creationists wanted to ban. It showed blacks at the bottom right above apes. It was utterly racist. And the Christians were saying this was wrong, God made us. And it was the liberals, the ACLU, the evolutionists that mocked the Christians. This movie is going to be great. It's AllegedTheMovie.com.

SUMMARY:

* RSF: Today's program has been designated an honorary episode of Real Science Friday!

* Sharon Sebastian on Racism and Evolution: This extraordinary co-author of the book Darwin's Racists pulls no punches discussing with Bob Enyart begin_of_the_skype_highlighting*****end_of_the_skype_highlighting Charles Darwin's overt racism. This episode of Real Science Friday looks also at the evolutionary racism turned into genocidal public policy by social Darwinist governments. And you can purchase online Sebastian's great book right now!

* Other Real Science Friday Programs:
- BEL's PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge (since PZ blogged on Bob Enyart this summer)
- BEL's famous List of Not-So-Old Things
- Bob's debate with Christian Darwinist British author James Hannam

* Today's Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown'
In the Beginning and Bob's interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You'll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez' Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media's Unlocking the Mystery of Life You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart's Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's debate about Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott; And the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI's tremendous Creation magazine!

 

[Granite]

It's fascinating how creationists treat Darwin and his books.

It's as though, unable to shake their worldview for a split second, creationists assume Origins is the only thing Darwin wrote, that evolutionists consider it infallible, and that evolutionary theory hasn't changed since the early 19th century.

And it's as though they believe evolutionists regard Darwin himself as infallible, as almost an apostle, of sorts, and that no evolutionist has ever taken Darwin to task or added to his work.

Bizarre, amusing, and fascinating.

By the way, the evangelical support for eugenics during the same period as the Scopes trial is shameful, brazen, and embarrassing. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

 

[Delmar]

By the way, the evangelical support for eugenics during the same period as the Scopes trial is shameful, brazen, and embarrassing. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

I have never heard of this. do you have any links?

 

[Granite]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4004/is_200207/ai_n9119561/?tag=content;col1

Plenty more out there via Google.

 

[Jefferson]

Evangelical support for eugenics during the same period as the Scopes trial doesn't surprise me a bit. It fits perfectly with my slogan/motto: "Most Christians worship the false god of Public Acceptance."

 

[Nick M]

It's as though, unable to shake their worldview for a split second, creationists assume Origins is the only thing Darwin wrote, that evolutionists consider it infallible, and that evolutionary theory hasn't changed since the early 19th century.

That is because the theory is proven to be absoulutely wrong. And as a result, the theory was modified to a place where it can't be proven or disproven. It went from a ladder to a tree. That way you can say how two different complex organisms are similar to a simple organism and say that both complex organisms came from the same simple one.

 

[Persephone66]

That is because the theory is proven to be absoulutely wrong. And as a result, the theory was modified to a place where it can't be proven or disproven. It went from a ladder to a tree. That way you can say how two different complex organisms are similar to a simple organism and say that both complex organisms came from the same simple one.

Science changes it's views and amends it's theories based on what's observed, that's how it works.

 

[Jukia]

That is because the theory is proven to be absoulutely wrong. And as a result, the theory was modified to a place where it can't be proven or disproven. It went from a ladder to a tree. That way you can say how two different complex organisms are similar to a simple organism and say that both complex organisms came from the same simple one.

Really? Proven wrong? Please supply a reference to the literature and the name of the Nobel winner for that "proof".

 

[Granite]

Science changes it's views and amends it's theories based on what's observed, that's how it works.

They treat Origins as though it's considered infallible! And Darwin as though he's seen as some kind of divine.

 

[Granite]

Evangelical support for eugenics during the same period as the Scopes trial doesn't surprise me a bit. It fits perfectly with my slogan/motto: "Most Christians worship the false god of Public Acceptance."

Mmm. So early 19th century racism strikes you as appalling and 20th century barbarism in the name of Jesus is just par for the course.

Uh-huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

 

[fool]

Lewis and Clark ate dogs.

 

[bybee]

Well

Well

Lewis and Clark ate dogs.

They couldn't have been kosher then.
I'm a bit of a finicky eater and the thought of eating dog meat makes me naseous. However hunger and deprivation can change one's thoughts.
bybee

 

[fool]

They couldn't have been kosher then.
I'm a bit of a finicky eater and the thought of eating dog meat makes me naseous. However hunger and deprivation can change one's thoughts.
bybee

They would buy them from the Indians and the dogs would just follow along so they didn't have to carry their food.
Does this distasteful practice of theirs mean that the west isn't there?

 

[taikoo]

RSF: Darwin's Racists Author on BEL

This is the show from Thursday July 29th, 2010.

BEST QUOTES OF THE SHOW:

SUMMARY:

* RSF: Today's program has been designated an honorary episode of Real Science Friday!

* Sharon Sebastian on Racism and Evolution: This extraordinary co-author of the book Darwin's Racists pulls no punches discussing with Bob Enyart begin_of_the_skype_highlighting*****end_of_the_skype_highlighting Charles Darwin's overt racism. This episode of Real Science Friday looks also at the evolutionary racism turned into genocidal public policy by social Darwinist governments. And you can purchase online Sebastian's great book right now!

* Other Real Science Friday Programs:
- BEL's PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge (since PZ blogged on Bob Enyart this summer)
- BEL's famous List of Not-So-Old Things
- Bob's debate with Christian Darwinist British author James Hannam

* Today's Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown'
In the Beginning and Bob's interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You'll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez' Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media's Unlocking the Mystery of Life You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart's Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's debate about Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott; And the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI's tremendous Creation magazine!

So what is the point you are getting at here?

 

[fool]

So what is the point you are getting at here?

Darwin was a racist so evolution isn't true.
Just like Lewis and Clark ate dogs, so the west is an illusion.

 

[taikoo]

Lewis and Clark ate dogs.

In WW2, american anti japanese propaganda said they are bad people because they eat raw fish.

they may have said the same abut americans because they eat rotten milk

i have a japanese friend who's most embarassing time in the USA was when she was invited to thanksgiving dinner and when the turkey was put on the table she was so sickened and repulsed by the barbarity of it that
she threw up and went home.

 

[bybee]

Well!

Well!

They would buy them from the Indians and the dogs would just follow along so they didn't have to carry their food.
Does this distasteful practice of theirs mean that the west isn't there?

Not to mention Shangri-la?
The fountain of youth?

 

[John Ladder]

It's fascinating how creationists treat Darwin and his books.

It's as though, unable to shake their worldview for a split second, creationists assume Origins is the only thing Darwin wrote, that evolutionists consider it infallible, and that evolutionary theory hasn't changed since the early 19th century.

And it's as though they believe evolutionists regard Darwin himself as infallible, as almost an apostle, of sorts, and that no evolutionist has ever taken Darwin to task or added to his work.

Bizarre, amusing, and fascinating.

By the way, the evangelical support for eugenics during the same period as the Scopes trial is shameful, brazen, and embarrassing. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Hmm. It's as though Darwinists often find themselves embarassed by the lack of scientific support for their religion and by the horrible implications such as racism and eugenics.

:idea:

I don't think disciples of Christ ever supported eugenics, but you'd like to insinuate this as yet another excuse to deny God.

 

[taikoo]

Darwin was a racist so evolution isn't true.
Just like Lewis and Clark ate dogs, so the west is an illusion.

i think that is the logic but we would like to hear it from the ah, horses mouth.

 

[taikoo]

Hmm. It's as though Darwinists often find themselves embarassed by the lack of scientific support for their religion and by the horrible implications such as racism and eugenics.

:idea:

I don't think disciples of Christ ever supported eugenics, but you'd like to insinuate this as yet another excuse to deny God.

We are a bit disturbed by the strange flights of fantasy to which some theists are given.

There are no Darwinists, there is no Darwinism.

The ToE is not a religion. It is tho very widely and deeply supported by science, theocreo ignorance doesnt change that.

All Europeans and Americans should be embarrassed by their racist past.

If you want horrible implications look no further than your "bible".

Any 'insinuating' going on here is to try to connect science to racism.

As for your bit about "deny" god, you deny thousands of them, do you not? is your bible just an excuse to do that.

As for your "disciples of christ' and eugenics, go ahead and play the no true scotsman game.