Quantum mechanics and Christianity

Gurucam

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Peter's church was erroneously held to be the Christian church by past popes who enforced that idea any which way, including though dictatorships and violence. Catholicism was passed off as the Christin church of old. Fact is Jesus' Christian church was committed onto only Paul. Peter's commission was essentially a slightly modified re-hash of the Old Mosaic system (which predated Christianity).

Peter's church or commission is founded on "what you see is what you get". People in this church or commission look only to things that are 'seen' and temporal. It is a physically based church. (the people in this church savor the things of man and they also bank all their treasures on and in the earth). All ideals, laws and other concepts here are discerned through human physical senses. That is through physical hearing and physical reading. This is the basis of the Mosaic system. Here physically discernible signs must be provide for the simplest spiritual event. This is the physics of Newton.

Paul's commission is founded on "what you do not see is what you get". People in this commission look to things that are 'not see' and eternal. This commission is spiritually oriented. In this system, people are led into their physical activities by information, guidance and techniques which come and operate from the spirit or quantum level. That is through intuitions. This is the basis of the Christian system. This is the physics of Quantum mechanics.

Peter's commission does not reveal nor is it rooted on the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is rooted in delusion or parables. It is rooted in managing people who cannot and do not have a grasp of the spiritual reality and Quantum mechanics. These people are described as not being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are said to lack 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. People in this church/commission are functional only in the gross physical reality.

Paul's commission reveals and is also rooted in the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is rooted in truth and Truth. It is for people who have an experiential intuitive awareness of the spiritual reality and Quantum mechanics. These people are described as being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are said to have 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. They are functionaries in the Quantum reality.
 

Gurucam

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You're MAD.

Jesus left two clear instructions as offers, as follows:

1.) let the dead bury their dead (this is Peter's commission).

2.) follow me in my regenerated Spirit (this is Paul's commission).

Did you and yours up for the first one? . . . I bet you did.

Do you bury your dead relative in the earth with their dead physical body in the hope that Jesus will return in his son of man format, in the day of the Lord Jesus to shout out to them to rise out of the earth, in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5? Do you do this thing?

Are your dead relatives waiting in the earth, indefinitely on the day of the Lord Jesus? 2000 earth years have passed and Jesus has not come. Jesus is not likely to come to rescue people who have denied and blaspheme Paul, Paul's commission and Jesus in His Son of God format which is the Spirit of Jesus. Such blasphemy is not at all forgivable. Such blasphemy is a one way ticket to hell.

Have you and yours being sending all your dead relatives to Satan, in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5, for the past 2000 years where they wait indefinitely on the day of the Lord Jesus? You are the dead who are burying their dead.

Many are called and few chosen. The chosen few are authentic Christians. They are the few who follow Jesus in His regenerated Spirit, like Paul. They do not do that thing. They do not bury their dead relative in the earth with their dead physical body in the hope that Jesus will return in the day of the Lord Jesus to shout out to them to rise out of the earth, in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5

Those who follow Jesus in His regenerated Spirit, while they live on earth achieve communion with Jesus as he is now, clad only in His Spirit body. They are led into their works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for say and do.

These people become authentic Christians and they differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, except that Jesus is head of the body of Christ. When such people (authentic Christians) die on earth, they are not buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait on the day of the Lord Jesus. When authentic Christians (i.e. the chosen few) die on earth they rise in no more than three days (like Jesus) to be like angels in heaven. This is the essence of Paul's commission (which is option and choice no. 2.). This has nothing to do with Peter's commission (which is option and choice no. 1).

If you chose option 1.) i.e. if you bury your dead relatives in the earth with their dead physical body in the hope that Jesus will return in the day of the Lord Jesus to shout out to them to rise out of the earth, in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 then . . . your foolish and mad choice and action speak louder than words. And you are in no position to correctly assess madness or foolishness of others.

You and yours have miss the daily flight to heaven. For those who follow Jesus in His regenerated Spirit, Jesus' ("not seen') flights to spirit heaven, have been operating for the past 2000 years.

In fact it seems that you are not even aware that Jesus has these daily instant flight to spirit heaven, which authentic Christians take within three earth days after their death on earth. Fact is these flights have been going to spirit heaven without the very great majority of traditional Christians. Only a few from among the billion strong traditional Christians ever board these flights. Only a chosen few get the required visa for entry into spirit heaven and into the mansion in God's house, which Jesus has prepared for the chosen few. (i.e. many are called but few chosen)

The very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of the billion strong traditional Christians have been opting to be buried their dead relatives and friends in the earth with their dead physical body in the hope that Jesus will return in the (still to come) day of the Lord Jesus to shout out to them to rise out of the earth, in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 instead of boarding these daily 'flight' to spirit heaven in no more than three days after they die.

You are probably totally unaware of these 'flights'. You and yours are therefore among the very great majority (i.e. everyone but the chosen few) of those called to Christianity. You were obviously misled (and/or fooled) by false prophets who came in Jesus name. You were not told of or you were misled about, the second offering and choice which Jesus left. Therefore you did not know scriptures, you err and did not make it. You never became authentic Christians, you and yours were not chosen.

The direct passage to spirit heaven, in three days after death, was never available to your and yours because you all denied its very existence. You all delighted in the dead path and ignored the living path. However I would bet that even now, you deny this living path and seek to deny others this opportunity because you and your relatives missed it for the past 2000 odd years.

I would guest that you all also blaspheme Paul, Paul's commission and Jesus in His Spirit, Son of God format, as the great majority of traditional Christians routinely do. Jesus is not likely to return in his son of man format to shout out to such people.

Being mad or even foolish is small worries for such blasphemers. Such people may have bough a one way ticket to hell.
 
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aikido7

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Peter's church was erroneously held to be the Christian church by past popes who enforced that idea any which way, including though dictatorships and violence. Catholicism was passed off as the Christin church of old. Fact is Jesus' Christian church was committed onto only Paul. Peter's commission was essentially a slightly modified re-hash of the Old Mosaic system (which predated Christianity).

Peter's church or commission is founded on "what you see is what you get". People in this church or commission look only to things that are 'seen' and temporal. It is a physically based church. (the people in this church savor the things of man and they also bank all their treasures on and in the earth). All ideals, laws and other concepts here are discerned through human physical senses. That is through physical hearing and physical reading. This is the basis of the Mosaic system. Here physically discernible signs must be provide for the simplest spiritual event. This is the physics of Newton.

Paul's commission is founded on "what you do not see is what you get". People in this commission look to things that are 'not see' and eternal. This commission is spiritually oriented. In this system, people are led into their physical activities by information, guidance and techniques which come and operate from the spirit or quantum level. That is through intuitions. This is the basis of the Christian system. This is the physics of Quantum mechanics.

Peter's commission does not reveal nor is it rooted on the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is rooted in delusion or parables. It is rooted in managing people who cannot and do not have a grasp of the spiritual reality and Quantum mechanics. These people are described as not being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are said to lack 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. People in this church/commission are functional only in the gross physical reality.

Paul's commission reveals and is also rooted in the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is rooted in truth and Truth. It is for people who have an experiential intuitive awareness of the spiritual reality and Quantum mechanics. These people are described as being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are said to have 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. They are functionaries in the Quantum reality.
Heisenberg was the first physicist who discovered that we actually change a particle by the mere fact of observing it.

Neils Bohr, another famous particle physicist, once said that the truth of two opposite views is that both views reveal the same profound truth.

Another lesson from particle physics is when an atomic particle is in a certain state, you can effect that particle and change its movement and behavior while the same particle even light years away undergoes the same changes effected in the first particle.

No matter how separate and different we feel, we are all the sons and daughters of God like Jesus said. We all live and breathe in the ground of God's being.

Our enemies are not our enemies on a deep level.

Instead of seeing other people and other objects in Creation as an "it," we need to take seriously theologian Martin Buber's realization that the best way to respond to God's grace and his world is to look at it in terms of I-Thou instead of I-It
 

Gurucam

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Heisenberg was the first physicist who discovered that we actually change a particle by the mere fact of observing it.

Neils Bohr, another famous particle physicist, once said that the truth of two opposite views is that both views reveal the same profound truth.

Another lesson from particle physics is when an atomic particle is in a certain state, you can effect that particle and change its movement and behavior while the same particle even light years away undergoes the same changes effected in the first particle.

No matter how separate and different we feel, we are all the sons and daughters of God like Jesus said. We all live and breathe in the ground of God's being.

Our enemies are not our enemies on a deep level.

Instead of seeing other people and other objects in Creation as an "it," we need to take seriously theologian Martin Buber's realization that the best way to respond to God's grace and his world is to look at it in terms of I-Thou instead of I-It

Indeed, among physicists, it a lot of theories, so far. And many thing might be changed.

In fact, there is at least one theory which dismisses the idea of black energy, black holes and black matter.

Intellectuals strive to bring forth theories and then prove them.

One is Christ simply knows the modus operandi of the quantum reality and uses it to fulfill the ides, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of his own sspirit in harmony with the will of God.

It like a human heart or an X-ray machine. There is no need to understand how it works in order to gain the best results from their use.

 
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Gurucam

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GURUMAN,

A SPIRIT BODY IS VERY STRONG AND POWERFUL.

REV. 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R9KXMrdXHU

The quantum level is progressively smaller.

All forces become increasingly stronger as things become smaller.

For example. A though that is issued in the depths of silence, at the finest levels of one's awareness (i.e. at the quantum level beyond the realm of physically spoken words) has a much more profound/powerful effect on other people and the physical creation.
 
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OCTOBER23

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Guruman said,

All forces become increasingly stronger as things become smaller.

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OK , then why do small particles go through solid objects without

destroying them as Electrons and other small particles do ?

Electrons are described by wave functions that extend smoothly from the inside to the outside of atoms because part of the electron is always outside the atom.
The process is called quantum tunneling, and occurs when a particle passes through a barrier that it seemingly shouldn't be able to. In this case, scientists measured electrons escaping from atoms without having the necessary energy to do so.

Quantum tunneling is possible because of the wave-nature of matter. Confounding as it sounds, in the quantum world, particles often act likes waves of water rather than billiard balls. This means that an electron doesn't exist in a single place at a single time and with a single energy, but rather as a wave of probabilities.
 

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Peter's church or commission is founded on "what you see is what you get". People in this church or commission look only to things that are 'seen' and temporal. It is a physically based church.

Right. They were to be restored and have land forever. They were also to be resurrected and many (you are master of Israel and know not these things?) did not know.

Paul's commission is founded on "what you do not see is what you get". People in this commission look to things that are 'not see' and eternal.

Right. The Body of Christ and members who cursed Israel being in it can not be traced out through scripture.

These are the two "New Testament" churches that the Paul haters say doesn't exist. They do not want to be cut off from the flesh because they are carnal.

The quantum level is progressively smaller.

All forces become increasingly stronger as things become smaller.

That which is flesh is flesh, that which is Spirit is Spirit. It is clear that the flesh is bound to Newtonian physics, and the Spirit is not.
 

aikido7

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Intellectuals strive to bring forth theories and then prove them.
Scientists do as well. And they put out their theories for peer and public review, because science is never "settled." Curiosity and learning are part of our DNA. Just because established religions like Islam and Christianity are presently confused and defensive with these values does not make them any more untrue.

...It like a human heart or an X-ray machine. There is no need to understand how it works in order to gain the best results from their use.
I like this. A very truthful metaphor. I will probably steal it from time to time!
 

Gurucam

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Guruman said,

All forces become increasingly stronger as things become smaller.

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OK , then why do small particles go through solid objects without

destroying them as Electrons and other small particles do ?

Because they are small and powerful.

Can 'big you', do that?

Do you know anything more than Moses laws and burying your dead relatives in the earth in hope of the day of the lord Jesus according to 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5?

Clearly you do not know about following Jesus in His regenerated Spirit and rising in no more than three days after death, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like an angel in spirit heaven. Clearly you and your, whether dead or alive, like earth, you like land, you choose to stay in the earth indefinitely. You delight in the gross physicality of things. The finer spirit, Spirit and quantum reality does not interest you and yours. There is no Jesus in His Son of God, Spirit presentation for you and yours. You delight in only 'seen' things.

The fact that "all forces become increasingly stronger as things become smaller" (and increasingly not 'seen') is the essential basis of the possibility, practicality and economic viability of nuclear energy. This is the reality of the current world. This is not your world which is long and practically rooted in the spiritual reality. You are lost in antiquity and it related Mosaic gross material earth-centric deals.

Nuclear energy is based on the fact that smaller particle have more energy and power.

1.) Energy is derived when simple compounds are dismantled. (the simplest of this is burning wood)

2.) Atomic energy is derived when one splits an atom. This is the act of frustrating the atomic force of the particular element. Then heat energy is expressed and/or is given off.

3.) Nuclear energy is derived when one splits a nucleus. This is the act of frustrating the nucleus of an atom. Then heat energy is expressed and/or given off.

In terms of size with respect to the above three, a compounds is larger than an atoms. An atom is larger than a nucleus which is sub-atomic in size.

no. 1.) derives the least energy per capita of effort,

no. 2.) derives exponentially more energy per capita (than 1.),

no. 3.) derives exponentially more energy per capita (than 2.)


If in any given year, December 25 is enlightenment, then you are not October. You are more likely early January. You seem very far behind.
 
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