On America's "Justice" System

On America's "Justice" System

  • Pat on the back - they got a black man off the streets for 25 years

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musterion

Well-known member
Voting bacon because I didn't read article and I like bacon. If it can be proved they KNEW he was innocent but railroaded him anyway, let their punishment fit his alleged crime.
 

Nick M

Plymouth Colonist
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The correct punishment for rape is execution.

At the re-trial, DNA tests revealed that the clothing police had alleged was worn by Wright to commit the crime was actually not his and could not have been in his home as authorities had claimed, according to the Innocence Project.

The officers involved should also be executed. It isn't like they didn't know. They lied about what they had. They knew then what DNA proved. And yes, I know touch DNA didn't exist then. But the officers knew what was in the crime scene and what was not.
 

patrick jane

BANNED
Banned
The real blame is on the cops and those that gathered evidence and lied. The prosecutor is simply given a case and trusts that the police did their jobs, same as the judge.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
if true, the cops definitely should be executed

but that does not exonerate the prosecutor and judge from their roles in this injustice
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
i don't watch tv

but i know how it (the american "justice" system) works


it is corrupt and evil

and those who support it and participate in it are corrupt and evil
 

Tambora

Get your armor ready!
LIFETIME MEMBER
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i don't watch tv

but i know how it (the american "justice" system) works


it is corrupt and evil

and those who support it and participate in it are corrupt and evil
What steps would you recommend to improve it?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
follow the biblical model

no lawyers

no jurys

only judges, held accountable for their actions if they're wrong
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
yep

and if the witnesses are found to have been lying, they meet the same fate their victim did (or would have)
 

The Horn

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Banned
I'm against the death penalty anyway . But they didn't commit murder . The judge and all those responsible for this travesty of justice should be disbarred and the judge should be thrown off the bench permanently . Possibly given jail time.
 

fzappa13

Well-known member
The average person's understanding (or lack thereof) of the American judicial system is pretty sparse. That is, until you become involved in it … which is a poor time to learn. The usual progression of events in criminal matters finds an investigator (read here peace officer) developing a case to the point they think they have sufficient evidence to get a Grand Jury to proceed further with the encouragement/ help of a prosecutor. That's not always the way it works.

A Grand Jury can indict whomever they want given sufficient cause but, as a practical matter, if they don't have the support of the prosecutor said case won't get prosecuted … that is, unless they choose to indict said prosecutor for not doing their job. The only bit of legislation that holds a D.A.'s feet to the fire here in Texas is found in the Government Code which directs a D.A. to address matters of monetary malfeasance on the part of public officials and that's about it. Beyond that, a D.A.'s powers of discretion concerning whom to prosecute or not prosecute are so broad as to make them practically autonomous. That said, they most often do rely on the veracity of their investigators as does the judge or any other magistrate that issues warrants or hands down sentences.

As it concerns warrants they are most often issued by a Grand Jury but that is not the only method by which they come to appear. Any person who provides sufficient evidence to a magistrate that a crime has been committed can instigate the issuance of a warrant. A warrant gets you in front of a petit jury, ideally of your peers, that will determine your guilt or innocence unless you work a deal with the prosecutor to avoid a jury trial.

It is the nature of our judicial system that it was born in the aftermath of a system (read here Star Chamber) that saw a limited number of folks whose loyalties and intent might best be called suspect handing down sentences in a manner that did not inspire confidence in the English Commonwealth. Hence the system that we now have that sees so many moving parts involved in an attempt to insure justice.

The good and the bad news is that any system of justice shy of The Judgment involves man at this point and any verdict will only be as good as the nature of those that participate in this endeavor along the way.
 
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Zeke

Well-known member
The average person's understanding (or lack thereof) of the American judicial system is pretty sparse. That is, until you become involved in it … which is a poor time to learn. The usual progression of events in criminal matters finds an investigator (read here peace officer) developing a case to the point they think they have sufficient evidence to get a Grand Jury to proceed further with the encouragement/ help of a prosecutor. That's not always the way it works.

A Grand Jury can indict whomever they want given sufficient cause but, as a practical matter, if they don't have the support of the prosecutor said case won't get prosecuted … that is, unless they choose to indict said prosecutor for not doing their job. The only bit of legislation that holds a D.A.'s feet to the fire here in Texas is found in the Government Code which directs a D.A. to address matters of monetary malfeasance on the part of public officials and that's about it. Beyond that, a D.A.'s powers of discretion concerning whom to prosecute or not prosecute are so broad as to make them practically autonomous. That said, they most often do rely on the veracity of their investigators as does the judge or any other magistrate that issues warrants or hands down sentences.

As it concerns warrants they are most often issued by a Grand Jury but that is not the only method by which they come to appear. Any person who provides sufficient evidence to a magistrate that a crime has been committed can instigate the issuance of a warrant. A warrant gets you in front of a petit jury, ideally of your peers, that will determine your guilt or innocence unless you work a deal with the prosecutor to avoid a jury trial.

It is the nature of our judicial system that it was born in the aftermath of a system (read here Star Chamber) that saw a limited number of folks whose loyalties and intent might best be called suspect handing down sentences in a manner that did not inspire confidence in the English Commonwealth. Hence the system that we now have that sees so many moving parts involved in an attempt to insure justice.

The good and the bad news is that any system of justice shy of The Judgment involves man at this point and any verdict will only be as good as the nature of those that participate in this endeavor along the way.

 

HisServant

New member
Disbarment, triple damages to those that rail roaded him , his record expunged... all the free education and medical care he needs and free public services for the rest of his life.. including vehicle registrations, any fees imposed by the government for any service, property taxes, etc. Refunds on all usage taxes, like Gasoline tax, etc.

The man should NEVER have to worry about the government or fork over a cent for the rest of his life.
 

fzappa13

Well-known member
Zeke, you have no practical knowledge of what you are talking about. Your "knowledge" consists of youtube clips. At a certain point you might consider walking out into the real world and having a look around.
 
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