Myths About Liberals And Liberalism

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I would like to debunk as many of the myths about liberals and liberalism as possible here.
1. Liberals are atheists . Some are, but only some . Many are in fact, Christians or followers of other religions . Some are agnostics, like myself .
2. Liberals hate Christians and want to persecute them . Not at all , at least most of them . They don't want to persecute Christians , just keep
Christians and Christianity from getting power in America .
3. Liberals are amoral or wicked . No more wicked than conservatives
are.
4. Liberals are sexually promiscuous and and licentious . Again, no more so than conservatives .
5. Liberals are "moral relativists " and think there is no such thing as right and wrong . This is absurd . "Moral relativism " is nothing but a right-wing straw man . No one, or hardly anyone, thinks anything goes and it's OK to murder others , be cruel to them,lie. cheat , steal
etc . However, matters of morals and ethics are not black and white, and there are many shades of gray . Liberals realize this .
They don't condone obvious wrongdoing . However, they have different ideas about what is moral and immoral .
7. Liberals are Marxists and communists . NOT TRUE . If you are an actual Marxist or communist, you are not liberal at all - just an authoritarian fascist . Liberalism is the exact opposite of Marxism and communism . Liberals are not communists and communists are not liberals .
8. Liberals like abortion and want women to have as many abortions as possible . WRONG ! Liberals are PRO-CHOICE . They don't like abortion and don't want abortions to happen . They just realize that
when abortion is illegal it never stops women from having them and only causes many to risk their lives and health with back-alley abortionists and the poorest ones will kill themselves with self-induced ones.
Liberals want to PREVENT as many abortions as possible .
9. Liberals support gay rights because they see this as a means to undermine morality in society and make it easier for communists to take over America . This is absolutely preposterous .Denying gay people rights and persecuting them is extremely immoral and no better than racism and Anti-semitism . Gay people deserve equal rights and to be treated fairly by society, period .
10 . Liberals "hate God ". This is just plain ludicrous . Liberals aren't necessarily atheists , but they do not believe in the traditional Christian view of God as a rigid control freak who hates gay people and demands that we all suck up to him 24/7 .
11. Liberals want the government to take money from honest hard--working people while it supports lazy ones who don't want to work generously . This is also ludicrous .
Liberals realize that a social safety net is absolutely essential for any civilized nation and that to destroy it is always catastrophic .
In order for people to be able to support themselves and live secure lives , there must be enough jobs which pay enough available .
The only reason America has so many people stuck on welfare is because we DON'T have enough decent jobs . If we did, we wouldn't have so many people on government assistance .
12. Liberals hate America and are not patriotic . Absolutely not true .
They hate our military and our troops. Again, absolutely not true .
They are not jingoistic patriots who support the military brass blindly
and refuse to support the government if it does immoral things, such as Bush and Cheney's catastrophic and immoral Iraq war, started based on lies for oil money .
13. Liberals "indoctrinate youngsters in public schools with "communism" and brainwash them to hate Christianity . Also college students .
Wrong ! Liberals believe that prayer and Bible readings should be reserved for church and home, and that public schools are places for TEACHING , not preaching . Kids whose parents are not Christians must NOT be subject to religious indoctrination .
There are some left-wing extremist professors at colleges and universities, but only for certain courses, not science or the arts etc, mainly political science professors .
 

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Serious question, Horn:

I dislike anyone labeling me and then telling me what I actually believe. You are lumping all conservatives and Christians in the same box ... even though you complain when they do it.

You do the same with prolife/anti-abortion advocates.

So again, how you any better?
 

aikido7

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:loser: I think it is going take me a week to get the dung off my boots and jeans. I just stepped in a huge pile.:mmph:
It's an interesting idea that an entire group of people are too often labeled as "all good" or "all bad."

But you already know that. I guess I am still surprised, though, to STILL be hearing it from people like you..

(If I make you uncomfortable or cause you to think, you can always ban me for being disruptive and blasphemous!).
 

musterion

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Serious question, Horn:

I dislike anyone labeling me and then telling me what I actually believe. You are lumping all conservatives and Christians in the same box ... even though you complain when they do it.

You do the same with prolife/anti-abortion advocates.

So again, how you any better?

Because he's a liberal.
 

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5. Liberals are "moral relativists " and think there is no such thing as right and wrong... However, matters of morals and ethics are not black and white, and there are many shades of gray . Liberals realize this ...They don't condone obvious wrongdoing . However, they have different ideas about what is moral and immoral .
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All in one breath. Amazing.

You forgot that liberals are comedic gold when controlled by the man behind the curtain.
 

The Horn

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"Liberals kill babies "? Really now. How many babies have I killed ? Zero . How many do I want to kill ? Zero . Abortions happen whether people are liberal or conservative , period, and there is no way to stop them from happening . The only thing that can be done is to prevent more unwanted pregnancies, which is exactly what liberals, including me, want to do .
Wanting to make abortion illegal does not and will not stop abortions .
And I hate that emotionally laden term "babies" for fetuses which do not and cannot even feel pain, which have no consciousness , do not look like recognizable humans yet. This is when most abortions happen .
 

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7. Liberals are Marxists and communists . NOT TRUE . If you are an actual Marxist or communist, you are not liberal at all - just an authoritarian fascist . Liberalism is the exact opposite of Marxism and communism . Liberals are not communists and communists are not liberals .
Are they socialists?
 

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"Liberals kill babies "? Really now. How many babies have I killed ? Zero . How many do I want to kill ? Zero . Abortions happen whether people are liberal or conservative , period, and there is no way to stop them from happening . The only thing that can be done is to prevent more unwanted pregnancies, which is exactly what liberals, including me, want to do .
Wanting to make abortion illegal does not and will not stop abortions .
And I hate that emotionally laden term "babies" for fetuses which do not and cannot even feel pain, which have no consciousness , do not look like recognizable humans yet. This is when most abortions happen .

They act like a republican has never had an abortion. I know one who has personally.
 

The Horn

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I'm not saying all conservatives think alike or all liberals do, either. I'm merely pointing out misconceptions many conservatives have about liberals .
No, not all conservatives are bad people, and not all liberals are good ones, either.
And government help for those in need is not "socialism ". It's something which is absolutely essential .
One point I forgot to mention is the whole issue of guns .
Conservatives call liberals "gun grabbers", even though they don't advocate the government confiscating guns from law-abiding citizens at all . Liberals advocate reasonable and sensible laws regulating guns for safety, which is NOT confiscation at all .
Nor is gun control part of a sinister communist plot to take America over by confiscating everybody's guns, which is an urban legend of the most idiotic kind .
Thousands of people are killed by guns every year in America, while only a handful are in individual European countries and other ones such as Japan . America has the most lax gun control laws in the civilized world , and European countries have much stricter laws for this.
 

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They act like a republican has never had an abortion. I know one who has personally.

Liberal promote abortion.

Conservative promote abortion and lie about it.

And yes, there are numerous exceptions to both of those statements.
 

aikido7

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liberals kill babies

it is not a myth
Conservatives kill babies, too. It's just that they are unwilling to see them as human beings after they are born.
Check out the mortality rates in the wake of our invasion of the Middle East.

And keep counting.
 
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