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It is not true. The word trinity doesn't appear in the scriptures & man was commanded against removing or adding to God’s word.
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Yes it is true. You do not know me and you can not tell me how I arrived at a particular understanding. You can not see into my heart. That is something only God can do. My understanding of an attribute of God is not adding to or subtracting from Scripture.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
It doesn't matter what we want to believe.
What matters is what God says.
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If you truly believed that, you would not be railing against your Brothers and Sisters in the manner in which you are.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
So you don't like history because from it we can easily determine whether the Trinitarians are Christ's followers or not.
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I like history just fine. What I don't like is your hypocrisy.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
You didn't notice that I quoted this:
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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I did not recognize it as a quote because you did not identify it as such. When you quote Scripture, have the courtesy to put the words in quotation marks. When you paraphrase Scripture, you leave it open to remark of either negative or positive expression.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
It is a matter of eternal life or eternal destruction. I shout as loud as I can: Come out of her….!!!!
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That's lovely but until you can recognize HaSatan and live according to God's will, you'd best not be shouting too loudly for there are none righteous, not even you.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
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Yes, God is a consuming fire. You, on the other hand, are not.
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Hmmmm!!!!
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Hmmmm?????
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
Yet you have no idea who you are talking about, have you?
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Oh, I don't think I'm doing too badly but, you know, pride goeth before a fall so I'll keep my heart soft and my neck muscles pliable.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
You simply don't know what you are talking about:
The Athanasian Creed
So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God
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Yes, I actually do.
"And yet they are not three Gods, but one God."
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
Please point to my lies or stop accusing me falsely. It is against the principles you have been so vocal about here.
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Since you asked:
"No Trinitarian has ever explained why they reject the Nicene Creed’s statement, the prophets, the apostles or Jesus’ condition for the eternal life." -- Trinitarians do not reject these things. Lie.
"Trinitarians have been accursed:" -- Trinitarians are not accursed. Lie.
"Trinitarians are known to be the most barbaric organisation" -- Lie. Trinitarianism is not an organization but rather a doctrine.
"their forefathers butchered their own theologians.." -- Disgusting lie. Sin is attributed to all no matter the doctrine they espouse.
You imply that all Trinitarians are Catholic. Another lie.
You state unequivocally that Rev. 14:8 and Rev. 18:4 has to do with the doctrine of the Trinity. Lie. The doctrine of the Trinity is not identified in those verses.
You stated that Totton Linnet has contempt for God. Lie. You don't know her at all nor can you see into her heart so you're clueless in that regard.
You stated "The Trinity God is the Babylonian fornication." There is not Scriptural proof to that effect so it is, therefore, a lie.
You stated to Totton Linnet: "You neither know God's word no follow the Christ. You just follow the Babylon." -- Lie. You don't know her at all nor can you see into her heart so you are clueless in that regard.
You stated to Totton Linnet: "You neither know what the "Church" means no follow the Christ." -- Lie, since you are not God and do not know the depth of Totton's faith and can not see into her heart.
You stated of Right Wing Fanatics: "Anyway, the Trinity God is the biggest blasphemy out of them all. The eternal life is not offered to them. See Jn 17" -- Lie. Not only do Right Wingers stand politically for God's Truth they stand for Godly lifestyle, rejecting homosexuality and abortion, communism and socialism. You do not get to determine who receives eternal life. That is determined by Yeshua. If you were Scripturally literate, you would know that and you would know that John 17 says nothing against the doctrine of the Trinity.
You declare yourself a Protestant Christian, yet you say this about the Body, the Church, the followers of Yeshua: "Do you mean the most barbaric organization man has known for almost two millennia?
No, I don't belong to this ungodly monster." Lie. All Christians believe in the Body of Yeshua, otherwise known as the Church.
You stated: "The Pharisees were also sure that Jesus had devil, weren't they?" And yet you wish to persecute your Brothers and Sisters with the same certainty. You are lying to yourself if you think your behavior is acceptable to God.
You stated: "My Lord didn’t say that there are three Gods. On the contrary, he said that the Father is the only true God. My Lord is the head of his Church. His Father is his head and his God." You state that Trinitarians do not believe this. Lie. Trinitarians believe that there is one God comprised of three personages, the Father, the Son and the Spirit. The Godhead still stands as the head of woman is man whose head is Yeshua whose head is God.
You stated: "Those proclaiming that they replaced God here on earth are out of their minds." The implication here is that Trinitarians have replaced God. Lie.
You stated: "JWs also worship Satan." Lie. I don't agree with their doctrine but they are not Satan worshipers.
You stated: "You mean the barbaric Trinitarian organization man built under the Christ's umbrella." Again, the doctrine of the Trinity is not an organization. Lie. You attribute barbarism (evil) to Trinitarians and not to HaSatan. Lie.
You stated: "Jesus isn't mentioned in Jn 1." -- Lie "He was with God in the beginning."
You stated: "God set apart another God." Although you meant this sarcastically, the implication you make is that Trinitarians believe this and that is a lie.
You stated: "A country’s ambassador is honored as the president because he represents him or speaks as he is told:" -- Lie. Obama doesn't listen to anyone. He has his own agenda going. Ha ha, had to throw that one in for the sake of Right Wing Fanatics!
You stated: "I hate nobody;" Lie. Your words here are your interpretation of Scripture. You slap people with and without God's word to support your interpretation. That is not rebuke with the love of God nor is it the proper use of God's word. It's hateful behavior.
You deny that Yeshua is the Word and that He was not in the beginning with God, virtually denying the Gospel message as found in John. You state that Genesis 1 does not support that. Lie. Yes it does. Genesis 1:26 "Then God said , 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness...' "
You stated: "The Trinitarian meddling with Jn 1 should cease." The implication here is that Trinitarians have added to Scripture. Lie.
You stated: "God is not matter." Lie. I refer you to Genesis 1. If God and Yeshua have an image and a likeness, then God has matter. Whether it is matter that we recognize is yet to be learned.
You stated of Trinitarians: "They weren’t Christians either." Lie. Whether one is Christian is a matter of faithfulness to Yeshua and obedience to God's commands. You don't have the ability to determine who is Christian and who isn't other than first, by who accepts Yeshua vs. who does not, and second, who shows fruit of Ruach HaKodesh.
I'm not going to go on but I could. There are plenty more examples here in this thread.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
So I shouldn't say that the Trinity God is a man made smoke screen to cover up the blasphemous worship of two man made "Gods" besides the Father the only one true God.
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No, but I can tell you sure enjoy it which is not Christian behavior because you should take no pleasure in rebuke and rebuke based not in Scripture but in your estimation is not Godly rebuke but rather persecution.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
I shouldn't say that history attests to Trinitarians rejecting Jesus because they butchered millions upon millions even of their brothers.
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No, because history doesn't say that, you do. You are the one twisting history to suit yourself.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
Why you changed from "Lord" in 1Cor 12:3 to your own "LORD"?
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I haven't.
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Don't you know that He who made him the "Lord" (Ac 2:36) is greater than he?
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That is what Scripture says and that is what I believe. The doctrine of the Trinity does not refute that.
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Do you really understand what you have just done?
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I do but I'm sure you're going to clarify your POV with more hatefulness. I will not return to this thread to read it, so have at it!
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
Be my guest:
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
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You can post it as many times as you like but it's not going to disprove or prove evil the doctrine of the Trinity.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
You must talk to the prophets, Jesus and the apostles not to me. I only quote them.
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Yes, and then apply your own interpretation.
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Please rust read Gal 1:8-9 carefully.
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I did.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by jerzy
I have gone beyond the translations.
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You have gone to a place of pride and arrogance and Ruach HaKodesh is not there.
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I chose the comic term above available on the list clearly allegiance to this world.
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You have chosen a term allied with HaSatan, death and misery of millions of people and you have the audacity to find that comic.
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