It's the closest thing i've heard as to what i'm trying to share here in this group. The surrender is not a one time event , it's continual. Surrendering ourselves to Him "is Faith" , the NT application of faith that can result in receiving His Spirit.
Over all i'm interested in how he got this understanding .
I'll tell you something, you two.
I'm forever going on about how that opposition to one's views is actually good for one. For what it can work in one, when said opposition is embraced for what good it might nevertheless work.
Your above is a case in point.
In that it has forced me to reflect on all the following once more, and to an even greater clarity on it than I have thus far had about it all, at least in expressing its sense consciously.
Sometimes we have a sense of a thing but not its words. That kind of thing.
That kind of thing often happens when one runs into an opposing view.
The opposing view ends up forcing the individual willing to, to reflect further on his own view.
At times that results in a complete change of mind in one's own view.
Other times opposition ends up only further clarifying for one, in words, one's already held view.
This last is that, in the following - greater clarity for me of the view I had already held.
Here, I'll lay it all out...
"The faith of the Son of God" is actually not referring to what the Apostle Paul clearly tells one he is referring to by that phrase there, with the very next clause in that same passage -"who loved me" [so much that] "he gave himself for me."
Hunh?
Paul is referring to the basis of the Believer's Acceptance before God.
He is NOT referring to the Works Based Acceptance so many erroneously assert.
He is referring to THE LORD'S fidelity and ITS result.
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;"
Hunh?
"who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For the writer of Hebrews is also referring to the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST's fidelity.
In Galatians 2, Paul is relating how that Peter and company had been wrong to have turned around and viewed those Gentile Believers on the basis of the Law's Performance Based Acceptance before God that had once been the case, "BUT NOW," (Rom. 3:21), was no longer the case, this side of Christ's fidelity to what He had come to do - die for our sins...
For...
Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
As Paul had said to Peter and company...
Galatians 2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Paul is arguing not one's going around being some sort of a works based "faither" or what have you.
Rather, he is arguing the COMPLETE Acceptance Before God the Believer now has as a result of the Lord's fidelity to the Cross - Who loved me (so) that He gave himself FOR me" - or - IN - MY - STEAD.
Paul is talking....
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ...
5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
That is what he is talking about in ALL Galatians.
Paul is not addressing the issue of the Believer's walk, nor what that walk is.
Rather, he is addressing the (obviously 2,000 year old "faither" error of PERFORMANCE Based Acceptance before God).
The main focus (scope) of Galatians is the issue of the basis of the Believer's COMPLETE Acceptance before God - His Son's FINISHED work.
Thus, his continuance of this very THEME, SUBJECT, NARRATIVE on into chapter 3...
Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, CRUCIFIED among you? 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 3:4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
NOTE - note - note...
3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
He is talking Romans 4 - NOT Romans 6.
He is talking...
Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Sorry "Faither" but the doctrine - THIS Romans 4 Doctrine - once more proves full of holes your cherry picking of that one "Greek" definition over all its other ones.
Because overall scope, theme, narrative, context, and subject point elsewhere.
All of them point to our FULL AND COMPLETE ACCEPTANCE BEFORE GOD that IS the FINISHED work of Christ - His fidelity and His fidelity ALONE that you keep insisting on adding the Law's Performance Based Acceptance before God to.
Fact of the matter is, that...
"If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself." - 2 Timothy 2:13.
Because....
Romans 5:8.
Meaning, thank you, you two - for your opposing view forced me to once more reflect on all the above - not only to my own greater clarity on it in words, but to my joy in it all, once more.
On the FACT, not hope, not wonder, not one more go round at the treadmill of human viewpoint, but on the FACT of...
Ephesians 1:6's "To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved."
Because...
Romans 5:8.
