God's Feet Shall Stand on the Mount of Olives

Jerry Shugart

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Let us look at this prophecy:

"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD (JHWH) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east" (Zech.14:1-4).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will return to the earth and save Jerusalem at her greatest time of peril. When He ascended into heaven His feet were standing on the Mount of Olives and it is said that when He returns He will return in "like manner" as He left (Acts 1:11-12).

Therefore, we can know that the Lord Jesus is the LORD, JHWH.
 

Jerry Shugart

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When we continue in the prophecy we see what will happen "in that day":

"And the LORD (JWHW) shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one" (Zech.14:9).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will be King over all the earth, and that will happen when He reurns to earth and begins to sit upon His throne:

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory" (Mt.25:31).​

It will be JHWH who will be King over all the earth and since it will be the Lord Jesus who will rule over the whole earth then we can know that the LORD Jesus is JHWH.
 

daqq

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Let us look at this prophecy:

"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD (JHWH) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east" (Zech.14:1-4).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will return to the earth and save Jerusalem at her greatest time of peril. When He ascended into heaven His feet were standing on the Mount of Olives and it is said that when He returns He will return in "like manner" as He left (Acts 1:11-12).

Therefore, we can know that the Lord Jesus is the LORD, JHWH.

It is symbolic prophetic language. The Father is non-corporeal Spirit. It only really takes one other statement from any other one of the prophets which disagrees with your interpretation to make your interpretation incorrect because it is symbolic language. If another one of the prophets says that the feet of the Most High are something other than what you are imagining in your physical literalism then that prophet is correct and your imagined understanding is incorrect. When it comes to the symbolic prophetic imagery of the feet of the Most High we already have an answer from the prophet Nahum:

Nahum 1:1-3 KJV-RN
1:1 The burden of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.
1:2 El is jealous, and YHWH revengeth; YHWH revengeth, and is furious; YHWH will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

1:3 YHWH is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: YHWH hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

Ah, the clouds are the dust of His feet!

Luke 9:27-35
27 But I tell you of a truth, There are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the kingdom of Elohim.
28 And it came to pass about eight days after these sayings, that he took with him Peter and John and James, and went up into the mountain to pray.
29 And as he was praying, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment became white and dazzling.
30 And behold, there talked with him two men, who were Moses and Elijah:
31 who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem.
32 Now Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: but when they were fully awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
33 And it came to pass, as they were parting from him, Peter said unto Yeshua, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah: not knowing what he said.
34 And while he said these things, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.
35 And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is My Son, My Chosen: hear him!

Matthew 17:1-5
1 And after six days Yeshua took with him Peter, and James, and John his brother, and brought them up into a high mountain apart:
2 and he was transfigured before them; and his face did shine as the sun, and his garments became white as the light.
3 And behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with him.
4 And Peter answered, and said unto Yeshua, Master, it is good for us to be here: if you will, I will make here three tabernacles; one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.
5 While he was yet speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold, a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: hear him!

2 Peter 1:16-21
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and parousia of our Master, Messiah Yeshua, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty:
17 For he received from the Father Elohim honor and glory, when there was borne such a voice to him by the Majestic Glory, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased:
18 and this voice we ourselves heard borne out of heaven when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 And we have the word of prophecy made more sure; whereunto you do well that you take heed, as unto a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the Daystar arise in your hearts:
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation.
21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spake from Elohim, being moved by the Holy Spirit.


If the 2 Peter 1:16-21 passage above is not speaking of Zechariah 14 then what prophecy is it speaking of? It clearly intends that the effervescent luminous CLOUD of glory from which the Father spoke fulfills prophecy; and the prophet Nahum clearly tells us that as for the Most High, the Father, the CLOUDS are the dust of His feet!

:Nineveh:
 

Zeke

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Let us look at this prophecy:

"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD (JHWH) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east" (Zech.14:1-4).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will return to the earth and save Jerusalem at her greatest time of peril. When He ascended into heaven His feet were standing on the Mount of Olives and it is said that when He returns He will return in "like manner" as He left (Acts 1:11-12).

Therefore, we can know that the Lord Jesus is the LORD, JHWH.

Of coarse that is figurative seeing the kingdom and dwelling place of God is in you Luke 17:20-21, Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16 etc....time based traditional theology concerning a coming physical Christ is a deception of the most egregious kind we all grew up being taught by the establishments religions which all literalness teaching come from the same mother Rome, yet even the hierarchy of her know the esoteric truth yet teach the historic version to the multitudes.
 

Jerry Shugart

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It is symbolic prophetic language.

Let us look at what is said after the verses which I quoted from the 14th chapter of the book of Zechariah and there is nothing written here that even hints that what is said should not be taken "literally":

"And the LORD (JWHW) shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one" (Zech.14:9).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will be King over all the earth, and that will happen when He returns to earth and begins to sit upon His throne:

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory" (Mt.25:31).​

So we can see that the Lord Jesus is JHWH.

Again, there is no reason to think that these words of the Lord Jesus at Matthew 25:31 should no be taken literally.
 

Jerry Shugart

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If the 2 Peter 1:16-21 passage above is not speaking of Zechariah 14 then what prophecy is it speaking of? It clearly intends that the effervescent luminous CLOUD of glory from which the Father spoke fulfills prophecy; and the prophet Nahum clearly tells us that as for the Most High, the Father, the CLOUDS are the dust of His feet!

The Apostles were given a glance of the kingdom. How do we know this? Because after the Apostles saw the transfiguration of the Lord Jesus and later His appearance returned to normal.

In regard to the word "prophecy" in verses 20 and 21 one of its meanings signifies "the speaking forth of the mind and counsel of God" (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words).

So the Greek word translated "prophecy" does not always refer to the prophets foretelling of things which will happen in the future.
 

Jerry Shugart

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Of coarse that is figurative seeing the kingdom and dwelling place of God is in you Luke 17:20-21, Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16 etc....

In regard to the kingdom, the Apostles were with the Lord Jesus for forty days while He tutored them about the things concerning the kingdom. And after that the Apostles were certain that the eartly kingdom would be restored to Israel:

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6).​

If the Apostles were in error for expecting that to happen then He would have corrected them. But He did no such thing, only telling them that they were not to know when it would happen. If it is never going to happen then why would the Lord Jesus say anything about knowing when it would happen?
 

daqq

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Let us look at what is said after the verses which I quoted from the 14th chapter of the book of Zechariah and there is nothing written here that even hints that what is said should not be taken "literally":
"And the LORD (JWHW) shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one" (Zech.14:9).​

It will be the Lord Jesus who will be King over all the earth, and that will happen when He returns to earth and begins to sit upon His throne:

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory" (Mt.25:31).​

So we can see that the Lord Jesus is JHWH.

Again, there is no reason to think that these words of the Lord Jesus at Matthew 25:31 should no be taken literally.

Your opinion that it should be taken literally is nothing more than your opinion and your opinion is in opposition to Nahum 1:3, 2Peter 1:16-21, and the companion passages in the Gospel accounts which 2Peter refers to. In addition your understanding of Matthew 25:31 and the question of when ignores the answer to when which the disciples asked of the Master in Matthew 24:3. The Master answers that question at the very end of the Olivet Discourse but you apparently did not have the patience to read all the way to the end of the discourse, and therefore, you are apparently not even aware of the answer which is given in the final punchline statement of the whole discourse as it reads in Matthew.
 

Zeke

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In regard to the kingdom, the Apostles were with the Lord Jesus for forty days while He tutored them about the things concerning the kingdom. And after that the Apostles were certain that the eartly kingdom would be restored to Israel:

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6).​

If the Apostles were in error for expecting that to happen then He would have corrected them. But He did no such thing, only telling them that they were not to know when it would happen. If it is never going to happen then why would the Lord Jesus say anything about knowing when it would happen?

And they heard the Spirit teach that the kingdom is within and is at hand for every man though each one has their own time and seasons under the Divine will as to when the Divine Seed asleep in man will sprout and grow shed the mortal minds limitation and ascend back from where they descended from, these teaching are ancient truths for the spiritual eye and ear to perceive concerning things unseen to lower mind or natural man Galatians 4:20-28 teaches a conscience shift away from mortal mind to the immortal Galatians 4:1.
 

serpentdove

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"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD (JHWH) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east" (Zech.14:1-4).

Natan, recall, briefly mentioned the two witnesses rising into heaven and then this (See: Dreams & Visons). Joe 2:28
 
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