God is a Jew? Really?

[George Affleck]

I ran across this recently and wondered if anyone knew anything about this.
Is this a movement? A mini-cult?
Or just a logical expression of not understanding the whole counsel of God?

It is by someone I am not familiar with.
John Harrigan


"“God is a Jew.”
You can’t get around it. The conclusion is inevitable. If Jesus was a Jew, and if Jesus was God, then God was a Jew–and assuming He doesn’t change, He remains as such to this day. "


This begs a lot of questions; does it not?

 

[patrick jane]

The Jews are God's chosen people

 

[George Affleck]

The Jews are God's chosen people

So is God one of those people?

I somehow see this as being as silly as saying:

God is a man
You can’t get around it. The conclusion is inevitable. If Jesus was a man, and if Jesus was God, then God was a man–and assuming He doesn’t change, He remains as such to this day.

 

[patrick jane]

So is God one of those people?

I somehow see this as being as silly as saying:

God is a man
You can’t get around it. The conclusion is inevitable. If Jesus was a man, and if Jesus was God, then God was a man–and assuming He doesn’t change, He remains as such to this day.

So the nation of Israel is not God's chosen people?

 

[daqq]

I ran across this recently and wondered if anyone knew anything about this.
Is this a movement? A mini-cult?
Or just a logical expression of not understanding the whole counsel of God?

It is by someone I am not familiar with.
John Harrigan


"“God is a Jew.”
You can’t get around it. The conclusion is inevitable. If Jesus was a Jew, and if Jesus was God, then God was a Jew–and assuming He doesn’t change, He remains as such to this day. "


This begs a lot of questions; does it not?

His reasoning is sound if you believe that, "Jesus is God Almighty". I would even go so far as to say that because Trinitrianism does indeed teach that, "Jesus is God Almighty", that therefore, by default, even Trinitarianism also claims that, "God Almighty is a Jew", and therefore, no, it is no "mini-cult" by any stretch of the word "mini", that is, if that is to say, "small in numbers", (lol). :chuckle:

Hebrews 13:8 KJV
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Yep, the doctrinal conclusion cannot be escaped:
According to Trinitarians, Tri-Uni's, and Oneness-Modalists, God Almighty is a Jew. :chuckle:

 

[beameup]

This begs a lot of questions; does it not?

no

ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. - Exodus 19:5b-6a
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people* - 1 Peter 2:9
*temporarily postponed

 

[daqq]

no

Well, the Oneness-Modalist already bailed: and of course he does not want to talk about it. :chuckle:

 

[George Affleck]

So the nation of Israel is not God's chosen people?

What does that have to do with the question?

Noah and his family were chosen by God for a specific task but Noah was not a Jew.

The Jewish nation was chosen by God for a different task(s).
But I fail to see how that supports the notion that God is a Jew.

Isn't that a bit beside the point?

Or are you suggesting that the nation of Israel was chosen because God favoured his own ethnicity?

 

[patrick jane]

What does that have to do with the question?

Noah and his family were chosen by God for a specific task but Noah was not a Jew.

The Jewish nation was chosen by God for a different task(s).
But I fail to see how that supports the notion that God is a Jew.

Isn't that a bit beside the point?

Or are you suggesting that the nation of Israel was chosen because God favoured his own ethnicity?

You're off on a tangent and a false gospel, I'll leave you to it.

 

[George Affleck]

no

ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. - Exodus 19:5b-6a
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people* - 1 Peter 2:9
*temporarily postponed

Somehow you missed the point.

The point has nothing to do with God choosing a nation.
PJ seems to think it does. But it doesn't.

The point is that this person I mentioned believes that it is logical that God is a Jew because Jesus was born a Jew.

 

[KingdomRose]

Re. post #1: God is not a Jew! How absolutely silly! That idiot would give even a momentary thought to the God who made the universe being any nationality of mankind? LOL!!!! What small minds people have!

Jesus is God's SON. He's not God. Jesus was a Jew, but I really don't know what his feelings are on that now, since he's back in heaven as a glorious spirit person just like he was before he came to the earth.

 

[beameup]

Somehow you missed the point.

The point has nothing to do with God choosing a nation.
PJ seems to think it does. But it doesn't.

The point is that this person I mentioned believes that it is logical that God is a Jew because Jesus was born a Jew.

And I heard him speaking unto me out of the TEMPLE; and the man stood by me. And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile - Ezekiel 43:6-7a

 

[KingdomRose]

The Jews are God's chosen people

No they're not, Paddy boy. Jesus said they were rejected by God because they did not accept His Son. (Matthew 21:43; Matthew 23:37,38) Do you even care that Jesus was rejected by them?

Peter plainly wrote that the Christian congregation was NOW God's chosen people.

"But you [Christians] are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for a special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. For you were once not a people, but are now God's people." (I Peter 2:9,10)

 

[beameup]

"But you [Messianic Jews] are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for a special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. For you were once not a people, but are now God's people." (I Peter 2:9,10)

There, I fixed it

The companion verse is Exodus 19:5-6
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

However, the promise still remains unfulfilled, and will be completely fulfilled at the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" (final chastisement of the Jewish NATION, aka: Day of the LORD).

 

[patrick jane]

No they're not, Paddy boy. Jesus said they were rejected by God because they did not accept His Son. (Matthew 21:43; Matthew 23:37,38) Do you even care that Jesus was rejected by them?

Peter plainly wrote that the Christian congregation was NOW God's chosen people.

"But you [Christians] are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for a special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. For you were once not a people, but are now God's people." (I Peter 2:9,10)

22 Bible Verses about[h=1]Jews As God's Chosen People[/h][FONT=&quot][h=2]Most Relevant Verses[/h]
[FONT=&quot]Exodus 19:5Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]'Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine;[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Deuteronomy 7:6-8
[FONT=&quot]"For you are a holy people to the LORD your God; the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. "The LORD did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any of the peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples, but because the LORD loved you and kept the oath which He swore to your forefathers, the LORD brought you out by a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Deuteronomy 14:2Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]"For you are a holy people to the LORD your God, and the LORD has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Deuteronomy 26:17-19
[FONT=&quot]"You have today declared the LORD to be your God, and that you would walk in His ways and keep His statutes, His commandments and His ordinances, and listen to His voice. "The LORD has today declared you to be His people, a treasured possession, as He promised you, and that you should keep all His commandments; and that He will set you high above all nations which He has made, for praise, fame, and honor; and that you shall be a consecrated people to the LORD your God, as He has spoken."[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2 Samuel 7:23-24
[FONT=&quot]"And what one nation on the earth is like Your people Israel, whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people and to make a name for Himself, and to do a great thing for You and awesome things for Your land, before Your people whom You have redeemed for Yourself from Egypt, from nations and their gods? "For You have established for Yourself Your people Israel as Your own people forever, and You, O LORD, have become their God.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Kings 8:53Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]"For You have separated them from all the peoples of the earth as Your inheritance, as You spoke through Moses Your servant, when You brought our fathers forth from Egypt, O Lord GOD."[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Kings 10:9Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]"Blessed be the LORD your God who delighted in you to set you on the throne of Israel; because the LORD loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness."[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1 Chronicles 17:20-21
[FONT=&quot]"O LORD, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. "And what one nation in the earth is like Your people Israel, whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people, to make You a name by great and terrible things, in driving out nations from before Your people, whom You redeemed out of Egypt?[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Psalm 105:8-15
[FONT=&quot]He has remembered His covenant forever, The word which He commanded to a thousand generations, The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac. Then He confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel as an everlasting covenant, read more.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Psalm 135:4Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]For the LORD has chosen Jacob for Himself, Israel for His own possession.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Isaiah 41:8Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]"But you, Israel, My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, Descendant of Abraham My friend,[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Isaiah 43:1-3
[FONT=&quot]But now, thus says the LORD, your Creator, O Jacob, And He who formed you, O Israel, "Do not fear, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name; you are Mine! "When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; And through the rivers, they will not overflow you When you walk through the fire, you will not be scorched, Nor will the flame burn you. "For I am the LORD your God, The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I have given Egypt as your ransom, Cush and Seba in your place.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Isaiah 44:21Verse Concepts

[FONT=&quot]"Remember these things, O Jacob, And Israel, for you are My servant; I have formed you, you are My servant, O Israel, you will not be forgotten by Me.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 31:1-4
[FONT=&quot]"At that time," declares the LORD, "I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people." Thus says the LORD, "The people who survived the sword Found grace in the wilderness-- Israel, when it went to find its rest." The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness. read more.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 31:9-11
[FONT=&quot]"With weeping they will come, And by supplication I will lead them; I will make them walk by streams of waters, On a straight path in which they will not stumble; For I am a father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn." Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare in the coastlands afar off, And say, "He who scattered Israel will gather him And keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock." For the LORD has ransomed Jacob And redeemed him from the hand of him who was stronger than he.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 46:27-28
[FONT=&quot]"But as for you, O Jacob My servant, do not fear, Nor be dismayed, O Israel! For, see, I am going to save you from afar, And your descendants from the land of their captivity; And Jacob will return and be undisturbed And secure, with no one making him tremble. "O Jacob My servant, do not fear," declares the LORD, "For I am with you For I will make a full end of all the nations Where I have driven you, Yet I will not make a full end of you; But I will correct you properly And by no means leave you unpunished."[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ezekiel 36:24-28
[FONT=&quot]"For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land. "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. "Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. read more.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ezekiel 37:21-25
[FONT=&quot]"Say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms. "They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will be their God. read more.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Joel 3:1-2
[FONT=&quot]"For behold, in those days and at that time, When I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land.[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Amos 3:1-2
[FONT=&quot]Hear this word which the LORD has spoken against you, sons of Israel, against the entire family which He brought up from the land of Egypt: "You only have I chosen among all the families of the earth; Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities."[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Romans 11:1-2
[FONT=&quot]I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Hebrews 8:8-13
[FONT=&quot]For finding fault with them, He says, "BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL EFFECT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH; NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WHICH I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS ON THE DAY WHEN I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND TO LEAD THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT; FOR THEY DID NOT CONTINUE IN MY COVENANT, AND I DID NOT CARE FOR THEM, SAYS THE LORD. "FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS, AND I WILL WRITE THEM ON THEIR HEARTS. AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. read more.[/FONT][/FONT]


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[Dark Matter]

I ran across this recently and wondered if anyone knew anything about this.
Is this a movement? A mini-cult?
Or just a logical expression of not understanding the whole counsel of God?

It is by someone I am not familiar with.
John Harrigan


[FONT=&]"“God is a Jew.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&]You can’t get around it. The conclusion is inevitable. If Jesus was a Jew, and if Jesus was God, then God was a Jew–and assuming He doesn’t change, He remains as such to this day. "[/FONT]


This begs a lot of questions; does it not?

Isaiah 43 would help you. Is. 43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King

He's the Kind NT of the Jews

 

[chair]

If you insist that Jesus is God, then you come to some really strange conclusions. As the joke goes:

A Catholic Priest and a Rabbi were chatting one day when the conversation turned to a discussion of job descriptions and promotion.
"What do you have to look forward to in way of a promotion in your job?" asked the Rabbi.
"Well, I'm next in line for the Monsignor's job." replied the Priest.
"Yes, and then what?" asked the Rabbi.
"Well, next I can become Arch-Bishop." said the Priest.
"Yes, and then?" asked the Rabbi.
"If I work real hard and do a good job as Arch-Bishop, it's possible for me to become a full
Bishop." said the Priest.
"O.K., then what?" asked the Rabbi.
The Priest, beginning to get a bit exasperated replied, "With some luck and real hard work,
maybe I can become a Cardinal."
"And then?" asked the Rabbi.
The Priest is really starting to get mad now and replies, "With lots and lots of luck and
some real difficult work and if I'm in the right places at the right times and play my
political games just right, maybe, just maybe, I can get elected Pope."
"Yes, and then what?" asked the Rabbi.
"Good grief!" shouted the Priest. "What do you expect me to become, GOD?"
"Well," said the Rabbi, "One of our boys made it!"

 

[Dark Matter]

Well, the Oneness-Modalist already bailed: and of course he does not want to talk about it. :chuckle:

People only say what you are saying to make people ashamed of acknowledging that Jesus is God. You seem to have some black blood in your veins.

 

[Dark Matter]

If you insist that Jesus is God, then you come to some really strange conclusions. As the joke goes:

A Catholic Priest and a Rabbi were chatting one day when the conversation turned to a discussion of job descriptions and promotion.
"What do you have to look forward to in way of a promotion in your job?" asked the Rabbi.
"Well, I'm next in line for the Monsignor's job." replied the Priest.
"Yes, and then what?" asked the Rabbi.
"Well, next I can become Arch-Bishop." said the Priest.
"Yes, and then?" asked the Rabbi.
"If I work real hard and do a good job as Arch-Bishop, it's possible for me to become a full
Bishop." said the Priest.
"O.K., then what?" asked the Rabbi.
The Priest, beginning to get a bit exasperated replied, "With some luck and real hard work,
maybe I can become a Cardinal."
"And then?" asked the Rabbi.
The Priest is really starting to get mad now and replies, "With lots and lots of luck and
some real difficult work and if I'm in the right places at the right times and play my
political games just right, maybe, just maybe, I can get elected Pope."
"Yes, and then what?" asked the Rabbi.
"Good grief!" shouted the Priest. "What do you expect me to become, GOD?"
"Well," said the Rabbi, "One of our boys made it!"

This is the best joke I've read in weeks. Thanks for sharing it.

 

[daqq]

People only say what you are saying to make people ashamed of acknowledging that Jesus is God. You seem to have some black blood in your veins.

The Testimony of Messiah was purchased with his own blood and therefore his Testimony is his blood. And that is not only in my veins but likewise every second of every minute of every day upon the altar of adamah which is the altar of my heart even according to Moses in the Torah.