Give me your rapists, your criminals, Your huddled drug dealers yearning to sell
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It should be noted that with 5250 miles of "unwalled" border, Canada has always had to combat the "brain drain" of some of its best talent to the US, attracted by its greater advantages in terms of money, prestige, research facilities .....!
"Ok dossier" also conveniently fails to mention that in late 2016, Canada also accepted 25,000 Syrian refugees - the kind of emigrants that the US under this President was "avoiding like the plague!"
"Ok dossier" also conveniently fails to mention that in late 2016, Canada also accepted 25,000 Syrian refugees - the kind of emigrants that the US under this President was "avoiding like the plague!"
ok doser
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25,000, eh?
that sounds like a lot!
| A total of 38,901 Muslim refugees entered the U.S. in fiscal year 2016, making up almost half (46%) of the nearly 85,000 refugees who entered the country in that period, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data from the State Department's Refugee Processing Center. |
ok doser
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Given that Canada has approximately 10% of America's population, accepting 25000 Syrian immigrants would be the equivalent to 250000 in the US!
The average Canadian has a life expectancy of 2-3 years longer than their American counterparts and don't face personal bankruptcy should someone in their family require extensive medical care.
In 2017 alone, an estimated 1,400,000 Americans chose to receive their medical care outside of the US!
https://patientsbeyondborders.com/medical-tourism-statistics-facts
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ok doser
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if you made the comparison on a per capita basis
but why do that?
why not make the comparison based on land mass?
or job opportunities?
or gdp?
no, what they face instead is extremely long waits for service
unless, as many Canadians do, they have private insurance to augment their government provided care
interesting - i was unaware of this - i wonder what they're getting - what are they comfortable getting outside the US (would you choose to go to a mexican hospital for care?) that they can't get here
and dude - you really should lay off the exclamation marks - makes you look like a teen posting on snapchat
ok doser
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ok doser
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the canadian numbers aren't skewed by these:
not a lot of blacks and Hispanics in the great white north
:think: maybe that's why it's great :banana:
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I'm sick and tired of the asinine claim that liberals in America are for "open borders " and think anyone should be allowed into America, no questions asked . On the contrary , liberals DO want the southern border to be carefully patrolled and under surveillance and want any dangerous criminal or drug dealer to be deported or put in prison for life if they commit murder .
However, liberals are rightly opposed to deporting all the illegals who have been living in America for some time and who are peaceful and law-abiding, work hard and pay taxes , because these so-called "illegals" actually contribute billions of dollars tot he US economy every year and deporting all or even most of them, even if this were possible, would do serious damage to the US economy , leave so many employers without the employees they need to operate their businesses and uproot intact families and put the lives of a lot of innocent people in jeopardy .
But Trump's wall is a stupid idea which would be totally ineffective w waste billion and do nothing to make America safer . There are better and less expensive ways to control border security . And only a tiny fraction of the illegals in America are drug dealers, murderers and rapists . The illegals have a lower level of crime than US born citizens .
However, liberals are rightly opposed to deporting all the illegals who have been living in America for some time and who are peaceful and law-abiding, work hard and pay taxes , because these so-called "illegals" actually contribute billions of dollars tot he US economy every year and deporting all or even most of them, even if this were possible, would do serious damage to the US economy , leave so many employers without the employees they need to operate their businesses and uproot intact families and put the lives of a lot of innocent people in jeopardy .
But Trump's wall is a stupid idea which would be totally ineffective w waste billion and do nothing to make America safer . There are better and less expensive ways to control border security . And only a tiny fraction of the illegals in America are drug dealers, murderers and rapists . The illegals have a lower level of crime than US born citizens .
ok doser
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ok doser
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we have another retard here who makes the same claim
my counter is always "illegals have a lower level of reported crime than US born citizens"
given that most crime happens within community, how many illegal immigrant victims of crime are apt to call the cops when they're raped, assaulted, victims of theft?
genuineoriginal
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Where are these sane liberals you are referring to?
They sure aren't on the news making talking points.
ok doser
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New York Times: There’s Nothing Wrong With Open Borders
Washington Post: Open the borders? Yes, but …
these are not the opinions of conservatives
WizardofOz
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:chuckle:
Kit the Coyote
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This seems to be one single opinion in favor of greatly expanding legal immigration and another pointing out the flaws in his opinion. So this is really just a single opinion that can be said to be for 'open borders'.
ok doser
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ok, but what about the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who want to come to america but can't be bothered to follow the legal procedures?
you don't say a thing about them
Kit the Coyote
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Chrome's incognito window option is useful if you are just looking to peek around that wall now and then.
I got a lot of hits on my search too but mostly from conservative sites saying that liberals were for open borders. I didn't find any from liberals sites using that language.