Faith and Faith Alone Replaces and Cancels Out All Religions

Robert Pate

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If you have faith in Christ and his Gospel you don't need anything else. Religion is not an indication of faith, Religion is an indication of the absence of faith.

I heard of a woman that went to the Catholic church everyday to take the sacraments. she was afraid that if she didn't go everyday she would not be saved. Do you believe that she had saving faith? I had a young Pentecostal friend. I could always tell when he had sinned because he went around looking like he had lost his best friend. He thought that his performance as a Christian is what would save him. There are multitudes of people that are trying to be good enough to be saved. They either do not understand the Gospel or they don't believe it.

The reason that we are justified by faith and by faith alone, Romans 5:1, is because there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that we can do to save ourselves. Can you fulfill all of the righteous demands of God's Holy Law? Can you atone for your sins and the sins of the whole world? Of course you can't. To say that you can is to deceive yourself, 1 John 1:8.

Saving faith is a faith that is resting in the work and the person of Jesus Christ. Those that have saving faith have ceased from their own works or religion and have entered in his rest.

"There remains a rest for the people of God. For he that has entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his" Hebrews 4:9,10.

If you are striving to be good enough to be saved by your works or your obedience to the law, then you have not entered into his rest, you are under the law and will be judged by the law. Why do you suppose that some people believe in Calvinism, or Catholicism? They believe in these religions because they cannot believe that Jesus and Jesus alone saves them. They have to add something to the Gospel. In Calvinism its predestination. In Catholicism it is the Catholic religion. Neither one of these religions are of the faith. If anything, they are anti-Gospel and anti-Christ.

Religion does not bring anyone closer to Christ. Religion drives people away from Christ and his Gospel and into themselves, who are sinners. What do religious people talk about the most? Do they talk about Christ and his Gospel? No, they talk about themselves and their religion.

In the Gospel it is Jesus that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. In the Gospel it is Jesus that atones for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. If you have faith in Christ and his Gospel, you won't need your religious security blanket. It is not going to save you anyway. Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.
 

jamie

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The Law of Moses defined a religion. Jesus lived under and taught that religion.

Paul said that particular religion is able to make one wise for the salvation of the Savior.

Why do you try to use scripture to reject scripture? It just doesn't work.
 

Robert Pate

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The Law of Moses defined a religion. Jesus lived under and taught that religion.

Paul said that particular religion is able to make one wise for the salvation of the Savior.

Why do you try to use scripture to reject scripture? It just doesn't work.


You must be quoting 2 Timothy 3:15, where Paul is telling Timothy that the scriptures are able to make one wise unto salvation. The whole Bible is a witness unto Christ and his Gospel. All through the Old Testament people are being justified by faith in God's promise of a savior, Romans 4:1-5. Jesus taught the law to show you that you are a sinner and need a savior.
 

Nanja

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The only kind of Faith that pleases God is a fruit and gift of the Holy Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22; Eph. 2:8.

But the faith of the natural man 1 Cor. 2:14, who is carnal / in the flesh, cannot please God Rom. 8:8!

Rom. 8:9b
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 

Robert Pate

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The only kind of Faith that pleases God is a fruit and gift of the Holy Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22; Eph. 2:8.

But the faith of the natural man 1 Cor. 2:14, who is carnal / in the flesh, cannot please God Rom. 8:8!

Rom. 8:9b
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

In the New Testament only those who hear and believe the Gospel are granted the Holy Spirit, Galatians 3:2.

Since you have rejected the Gospel as your means of salvation and have embraced the doctrine of a heretic you do not have the Holy Spirit.
 

Nanja

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In the New Testament only those who hear and believe the Gospel are granted the Holy Spirit, Galatians 3:2.

Since you have rejected the Gospel as your means of salvation and have embraced the doctrine of a heretic you do not have the Holy Spirit.


Wrong! You're a false teacher, preaching that salvation is by works a person does!

According to the scriptures, no one has the ability to Hear the Gospel, which is God's Word, unless they are Born of God!

John 8:43, 47
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


And no one has the ability to Believe the Gospel unless they are first Born of the Spirit of God because Faith / Believing is a fruit and gift of the Spirit of God given in New Birth Gal. 5:22; Eph. 2:8!

Yet you relentlessly continue to preach salvation by works a person does.

John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

You can't do it on your own, in your own flesh!

Rom 8:7-8
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Salvation is all the Work of God in whom He has Chosen in Christ before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!
 

Robert Pate

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Wrong! You're a false teacher, preaching that salvation is by works a person does!

According to the scriptures, no one has the ability to Hear the Gospel, which is God's Word, unless they are Born of God!

John 8:43, 47
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


And no one has the ability to Believe the Gospel unless they are first Born of the Spirit of God because Faith / Believing is a fruit and gift of the Spirit of God given in New Birth Gal. 5:22; Eph. 2:8!

Yet you relentlessly continue to preach salvation by works a person does.

John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

You can't do it on your own, in your own flesh!

Rom 8:7-8
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Salvation is all the Work of God in whom He has Chosen in Christ before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!


If that were true, which it is not. Then you must also believe that God is unjust. Calvinism is self defeating. What it requires you to believe about God and his Son Jesus Christ is what will send you to hell.
 

Nanja

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If that were true, which it is not. Then you must also believe that God is unjust. Calvinism is self defeating. What it requires you to believe about God and his Son Jesus Christ is what will send you to hell.


It's impossible for God to be unjust!



God's Will is not subject to the will of man Dan. 4:35.


Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.


Rom. 9:22-23

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


Ps. 145:17
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.
 

Robert Pate

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It's impossible for God to be unjust!



God's Will is not subject to the will of man Dan. 4:35.


Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.


Rom. 9:22-23

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


Ps. 145:17
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

Any God that predestinates people to hell before they are born is unjust. Any 10 year old knows that.

Your Calvinist doctrine is self defeating. What it requires that you believe about God and his Son Jesus Christ is what is going to damn you to hell.
 

Nanja

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Any God that predestinates people to hell before they are born is unjust. Any 10 year old knows that.


Yet, that's exactly what the scriptures declare Rom. 9:22-23.

But you are prevented from believing the Truth of God's Word 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

And from all indications of your posts within the last three plus years since I've been on this forum, because you don't believe that the Blood of Christ has Power to Save all those He died for, it leaves you to be nothing more than a vessel of wrath prepared for destruction Rom. 9:22!
 

jsanford108

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Once again, attacking certain groups. Why? Why do you persecute them so much? You really have no concept of definitions, particularly those of "religion," "doctrine," "faith," or "salvation."

You also fail to understand, or even have knowledge of, those whom you persecute. Calvinists are much deeper and more scholastic than you, I assure you. Catholics have much more faith and knowledge than you attribute to them. Pentacostals....well that one you did portray accurately.

Also, predestination is not an addition to the Gospel. Catholics did not add to the Gospel. Your posts and threads are rife with inaccuracies, falsehoods, and general ignorance. Educate yourself, man.
 

Robert Pate

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Once again, attacking certain groups. Why? Why do you persecute them so much? You really have no concept of definitions, particularly those of "religion," "doctrine," "faith," or "salvation."

You also fail to understand, or even have knowledge of, those whom you persecute. Calvinists are much deeper and more scholastic than you, I assure you. Catholics have much more faith and knowledge than you attribute to them. Pentacostals....well that one you did portray accurately.

Also, predestination is not an addition to the Gospel. Catholics did not add to the Gospel. Your posts and threads are rife with inaccuracies, falsehoods, and general ignorance. Educate yourself, man.


Calvinist, Catholics, all religions are anti-Christ.

The fact that you don't know that and that you support them, tells me that you are also anti-Christ.

Anti-Christ wants you to believe that salvation is by some other way than by grace through faith. There is no other way.

Jesus and Jesus alone saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25. Jesus and Jesus alone is our savior and is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

In the judgment, if you are not found to be trusting in him and in him alone, you will perish.
 
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