Interplanner
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Because they are looking for an actual muscular kingdom of David on a throne in Jerusalem, Dispensationalists would not have attended the parade. A guy on a young donkey? You've got to be kidding!
ECT D'ists would have skipped and poo-poo'd the 'triumphal entry'
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SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
Nope.
Because we understand this:
1 Passover
2 Unleavened Bread
3 First Fruits
4 Passover
5 Trumpets
6 Atonement
7 Tabernacles
Nope.
Because we understand this:
1 Passover
2 Unleavened Bread
3 First Fruits
4 Passover
5 Trumpets
6 Atonement
7 Tabernacles
But do you understand this?
1 Passover
2 Unleavened Bread
3 Pentecost
4 Trumpets
5 Atonement
6 Tabernacles
7 Eighth Day
SaulToPaul 2
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Interplanner
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Have you thought a bout a career in counting? You're great. What is your point?
Try to show some awareness. The contradiction or parody of a "king" on a yearling donkey without any weapons? Do you know satire when you see it?
Leviticus 23:39 Also on the fifteenth day of the seventh month when you have gathered in the fruit of the land, you shall keep the feast of the LORD for seven days; on the first day there shall be a sabbath-rest, and on the eighth day a sabbath-rest.
The first day of the seven day feast is a Sabbath and the eighth day immediately following the seven day feast is a Sabbath.
Interplanner
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This thread was about the contradiction of 'entering' Jerusalem as a king on a baby donkey without soldiers or weapons. I don't think D'ists would have attended the event. I'm glad you've sorted out the week long festival, but it doesn't mean or say anything about the satire about a kingdom.
SaulToPaul 2
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1 Passover
2 Unleavened Bread
3 First Fruits
4 Passover
5 Trumpets
6 Atonement
7 Tabernacles
Learn the difference between the Lamb led to the slaughter (Passover) and the King Coming in vengeance (Atonement).
SaulToPaul 2
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Sure, we would have. We are literalists and would have counted up the times and would have been waiting for him. You would have spiritualized the years and missed him.
Interplanner
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Could you please learn how to talk? The times? The years? You think you are clear but you are ambiguous = meaning two compeletely different things about a critical question.
He came on time as Dan 9 said, and so did the destruction of the city and the sanctuary.
SaulToPaul 2
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The irony...
You sure have a fetish with poo poo huh? Did you smear it on the walls when you were little?
Interplanner
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But we know that the literalists of that day knew Messiah would be coming. So how did they get stuck by the Gospel event (and anticipation statements about it) and get caught totally off guard, but were "literal"?
I'll tell you how: by thinking the prophets were going to be literally true in large sections of Isaiah or Jeremiah or Ezekiel. Instead it was meant to paint a picture of what Messiahs humble servant-kingdom would be like, but would be transcultural, not Jewish.
You need to go through the crisis for Judaism right then brand new. "Jesus is the Christ" has lost its edge. It is not subversive, to you, when you think about people saying it at that time.
As found in Jn 12:34.
SaulToPaul 2
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Didn't understand a word of this.
Interplanner
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They missed the Gospel by being literalists about prophecy. When John 12:34 says 'we know from the law' they mean their scriptures. They were expecting him to reign for ever. They could not see that a 'king' on a donkey's colt meant an unusual king, a kingdom made without human hands, etc. So their expectations then, like yours now, were toward the literal end, and it is mistaken.
Christ tells them he is the light they should be following, not what they thought would happen from their mindset about the prophets.
If that isn't enough, listen to Paul in Acts 26: he dares not go beyond what Moses and the Prophets say: the coming, sacrifice and preaching of Christ to the nations. That is all that is there, and a person should not go beyond that. Where does that put D'ism and all the prophecy experts and 'land forever' experts?
Times...as in Bob Dylan's "o the times they are a changin..."
Matthew 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Galatians 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
Interplanner
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Ie, what does Jn 12:34 mean?
Interplanner
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Let's just throw a dozen extraneous bible verses at this OK, and see if it goes away. If you believe 2P2P, you would not have attended the triumphant entry of Christ.
IN FACT, YOU WOULD HAVE STOPPED THE PARADE AND TOLD EVERYONE THAT THERE WAS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ANOTHER EPISODE OF ISRAEL AND THERE WILL BE; YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU ARE D'IST AND SEVERAL CENTURIES LATER PEOPLE WILL REALLY BE GLAD TO KNOW THAT GOD GAVE US D'ISM, SO MUCH MORE CLEAR THAN THE GOSPEL!
IN FACT, YOU WOULD HAVE STOPPED THE PARADE AND TOLD EVERYONE THAT THERE WAS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ANOTHER EPISODE OF ISRAEL AND THERE WILL BE; YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU ARE D'IST AND SEVERAL CENTURIES LATER PEOPLE WILL REALLY BE GLAD TO KNOW THAT GOD GAVE US D'ISM, SO MUCH MORE CLEAR THAN THE GOSPEL!
You almost sound "cryptic." Does your mind work that way naturally or do you purposely set out to come off as, rather obscure? Which is it? Or, is there some other reason unknown and well hidden from your intended audience?